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Old Oct 20, 2012, 08:13 PM
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People looking for additional batteries might try these:

http://www.valuehobby.com/power-syst...placement.html

I have 8 of their earlier batteries marked 15C, and they transformed my micro Sukhoi. They even work remarkably well in my nCPX, despite being two years old now. At $1.69 and shipped from the US, 4 batteries is at most a $10 mistake.

Bill
I have a bunch of these and they work pretty well. I set the timer for 3:30 and can beat them pretty good most of the time. Definitely a good cheap alternative
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 08:15 PM
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At thirteen bucks a motor, it seems like a brushless mod would be a no-brainer over the long run.

Could the ESC flashing be done with the USB AVR programmer that I bought for doing bigger ESCs, or do the tiny ones need something different?
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 08:35 PM
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Long run, short run, who cares. I just want a reliable motor that I don't have to coddle so it 'maybe' lasts a few more flights. Watching motors die on the msrx got tired real fast. At least the msrx motor was easy to get at and replace.

If I can eliminate the motor as maintenance point, it's worth. Don't even care much if a BL has more power or less, as long as it still flies with a comparable flight time.

HK recently came out with brushless ESC for 'micro helis'. For example http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...elicopter.html It's (looks like) a fully plug and play brushed to brushless conversion board for the mcpx, just add motor. No custom firmware, no flashing, no soldering.

My bet is it won't be long before plug and play ESCs are also available for msrx/ncpx size helis too. Then it'll be easier and cheaper than ever to convert.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 08:44 PM
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Long run, short run, who cares. I just want a reliable motor that I don't have to coddle so it 'maybe' lasts a few more flights. Watching motors die on the msrx got tired real fast. At least the msrx motor was easy to get at and replace.

If I can eliminate the motor as maintenance point, it's worth. Don't even care much if a BL has more power or less, as long as it still flies with a comparable flight time.

HK recently came out with brushless ESC for 'micro helis'. For example http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...elicopter.html It's (looks like) a fully plug and play brushed to brushless conversion board for the mcpx, just add motor. No custom firmware, no flashing, no soldering.

My bet is it won't be long before plug and play ESCs are also available for msrx/ncpx size helis too. Then it'll be easier and cheaper than ever to convert.
If there was a reliable, plug and play, inexpensive brushless option available I would probably jump on it too just for the cost savings as I'm on my third nano motor in a little over a month.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:07 PM
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It looks like it just plugs into the motor port so why would this not work on the nano? I'm sure someone will try soon.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:08 PM
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Still struggeling on brushless conversion (base plate) and waiting for AstroidDesigns solution - so what to do with the Nano?

Does not fly better, but is prettier

Canopies and TDR landing skids by Frank Lachmund.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:25 PM
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At thirteen bucks a motor, it seems like a brushless mod would be a no-brainer over the long run.

Could the ESC flashing be done with the USB AVR programmer that I bought for doing bigger ESCs, or do the tiny ones need something different?
Yes. I believe there is a thread on it over at HeliFreak.

But just grab the Toolstick from HobbyKing. It's available there now for about $10. Then you can use the BLHeli Setup GUI for easier programming.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:27 PM
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Long run, short run, who cares. I just want a reliable motor that I don't have to coddle so it 'maybe' lasts a few more flights. Watching motors die on the msrx got tired real fast. At least the msrx motor was easy to get at and replace.

If I can eliminate the motor as maintenance point, it's worth. Don't even care much if a BL has more power or less, as long as it still flies with a comparable flight time.

HK recently came out with brushless ESC for 'micro helis'. For example http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...elicopter.html It's (looks like) a fully plug and play brushed to brushless conversion board for the mcpx, just add motor. No custom firmware, no flashing, no soldering.

My bet is it won't be long before plug and play ESCs are also available for msrx/ncpx size helis too. Then it'll be easier and cheaper than ever to convert.
I am fairly sure that is a custom firmware and that they use blheli but don't give credit to where it is do. If it doesn't have a converter you can almost be assured it is pre-flashed with blheli code.
You can make a plug in play like this for the nano but probably won't be out for sale with the 3a esc for another few months.

Right now it is pretty cheap to go brushless at $10 for an esc and $15-30 for a motor $10 more if you dont have a usb stick to flash with. But once you have one you can flash and upgrade lots of stuff




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It looks like it just plugs into the motor port so why would this not work on the nano? I'm sure someone will try soon.
Imo way to much weight for a good conversion on the nano where every gram is equal to 3.5% weight gain. My esc is around .5 grams
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:49 PM
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I'm almost finished installing a sukhoi xp brushed motor with 9 tooth pinion in the nano. Not sure what will happen but I'll let you know shortly.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:50 PM
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Here we go:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._100_etc_.html

This is a 'dual' brushless ESC for the mcpx. The main motor is a 10A and the tail motor is a 3A. The interesting part is that it 'looks' like the ESC is built as two completely separate ESCs sharing the same board. It 'looks' like you could cut the thing in two with a dremel and have both a 3A nano brushless ESC and a 10A mcpx brushless ESC (no programming required). That's a 'two for' if you happen to be considering an mcpx upgrade also.

But without seeing both sides of the board, it's hard to say for sure if it can be simply cut in two. HK also sells a dual brushed to brushless 'converter' (a dual version of the 'Steve' without the 'ESC'). So the other side of the board might be a single chip dual converter that would make this inseparable.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Instead of trying to split something how about
This http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._ESC_3_5A.html Or this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9667

with one of these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...opter_ESC.html
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 10:01 PM
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EFlite Nano CPX

I have checked XHeli, wowhobbies, helipal and other RC Heli site and want the best Micro Flybarless heli on the market. XHeli most are sold out by Walkera. I want to get started off right in the world of RC Helicopters so I can enjoy flying learning. I have a simulator and its a G5.

I have been flying RC airplanes for over 5 years and want to find a fun, durable micro heli thats a blast to fly. Id like one for indoors and also to fly outdoors.

Id like to get flying a 400 size Heli in the near future like next spring or earlier after I fly this smaller Heli. Id like to fly only flybarless heli due to lower part and reliability

Also I need alot of batterys so when I fly indoors in colder weather I have alot of lipos to keep flying. What's the best website to keep me in stock with smaller one cell lipos?

EFlite seems to have one of the best smaller helis in the video and add.

Maybe I just answered my own questions and found a good RC micro Heli.

For all you experienced Heli flyers what do you think? XHeli or EFlite where is the best to buy? Also finding replacment parts is a priority since I am flying indoors. Maybe this EFlite heli is so durable maybe I wont need any replacement part. Here is the video. Thanks for any answers. Just seeing the video shows it looks like it would definitely be a blast to fly and enjoy.

http://www.bladehelis.com/ProdInfo/Files/BLH3300-HI.wmv
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Would be great to have a plug and play brushless setup.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 11:18 PM
It flies!!! ... so who cares ?
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skids and frames ...

I am sure you all know the airtime skids for the nano are available by now ...

And talking about changing nano "looks" ...
I really wonder when the first upgrade frame will be available, so that one can fly without the constant fear the dang canopy posts break if you cough the wrong way at them
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 11:18 PM
It flies!!! ... so who cares ?
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Would be great to have a plug and play brushless setup.
being worked on in Germany (and in Switzerland as well ...)
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