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Old Aug 25, 2012, 09:00 PM
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Seagull Mini Nemesis EP

I recently built and flew the Seagull Mini Nemesis EP carried by Horizon Hobby here in the US. I must say I was impressed with the quality of the ARF. There are a few things I thought could have been better but overall am pretty pleased.

Cons:
- First you need 5 servos - 2 for the elevator which means you need to mix channels or buy a Y reverser.
- I wanted to use some left over HS55 and had to widen the servo holes in the fuselage. Turns out only stringers hold the servos in place on the long sides so broke two of them. Minor fix but I guess I should have stuck to the suggested HS50 size.
- The battery hatch does not go all the way under the cowl so there is a gap between it and the cowl. See pics below.
- Instructions called for wheel axles to be cut to size. Why not just cut them at the factory since the wheels a provided. I guess it is to accommodate large wheel options. I left the axels as they are, they probably would have fit under the wheel pants as it. I also left off the wheel pants since I fly of grass.
- The spinner wouldn't allow enough threads for the prop adapter nut so I used a Tru-Turn spinner which fit and looks awesome. If you haven't used a Tru-Turn spinner check them out at: http://www.tru-turn.com/

Plus:
- Pretty straight forward and quick build for an ARF.
- Flies great.
- Very quick.
- CG in the instructions was bang on.

Flying:
- She needs speed and loves to snap. She snapped out of loops and even hammerhead turns if too slow.
- If you love to snap roll she is the plane to have.
- Have to keep up a little speed to land her. A little fast for her size.
- She will do inverted pretty well.
- I wasn't able to knife edge her very well.

Summary:
All in all a really nice flying airplane once you get used to her. One of my favorite at the field.

Check out the pics !
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 01:10 AM
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Hi Noofly

Congrats on your Mini Nemesis maiden and flying.

I am thinking of getting one ahead of my building G ride or G300 of Stevens aero as an aerobatic sport plane. Your info havee convinced me more than enough to get one.

From your image and notes, , you have used HS 55 instead of HS50. Since the covering had already done, did you reinforce the servo tray from inside the frame for HS 55? If yes, how do you do it. Would be grateful for that information, as I have spare HS 55s lying around also.

What Motor, ESC, battery and prop did you used?

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Laythuye
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 07:48 PM
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I recently built and flew the Seagull Mini Nemesis EP carried by Horizon Hobby here in the US. I must say I was impressed with the quality of the ARF. There are a few things I thought could have been better but overall am pretty pleased.

Cons:
- First you need 5 servos - 2 for the elevator which means you need to mix channels or buy a Y reverser.
- I wanted to use some left over HS55 and had to widen the servo holes in the fuselage. Turns out only stringers hold the servos in place on the long sides so broke two of them. Minor fix but I guess I should have stuck to the suggested HS50 size.
- The battery hatch does not go all the way under the cowl so there is a gap between it and the cowl. See pics below.
- Instructions called for wheel axles to be cut to size. Why not just cut them at the factory since the wheels a provided. I guess it is to accommodate large wheel options. I left the axels as they are, they probably would have fit under the wheel pants as it. I also left off the wheel pants since I fly of grass.
- The spinner wouldn't allow enough threads for the prop adapter nut so I used a Tru-Turn spinner which fit and looks awesome. If you haven't used a Tru-Turn spinner check them out at: http://www.tru-turn.com/

Plus:
- Pretty straight forward and quick build for an ARF.
- Flies great.
- Very quick.
- CG in the instructions was bang on.

Flying:
- She needs speed and loves to snap. She snapped out of loops and even hammerhead turns if too slow.
- If you love to snap roll she is the plane to have.
- Have to keep up a little speed to land her. A little fast for her size.
- She will do inverted pretty well.
- I wasn't able to knife edge her very well.

Summary:
All in all a really nice flying airplane once you get used to her. One of my favorite at the field.

Check out the pics !
Hi Noofly

Congrats on your Mini Nemesis maiden and flying.

I am thinking of getting one ahead of my building G ride or G300 of Stevens aero as an aerobatic sport plane. Your info have convinced me more than enough to get one.

From your image and notes, , you have used HS 55 instead of HS50. Since the covering had already done, did you reinforce the servo tray from inside the frame for HS 55? If yes, how do you do it. Would be grateful for that information, as I have spare HS 55s lying around also.

What Motor, ESC, battery and prop did you used?

Regards
Laythuye
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Hi Noofly

Congrats on your Mini Nemesis maiden and flying.

I am thinking of getting one ahead of my building G ride or G300 of Stevens aero as an aerobatic sport plane. Your info havee convinced me more than enough to get one.

From your image and notes, , you have used HS 55 instead of HS50. Since the covering had already done, did you reinforce the servo tray from inside the frame for HS 55? If yes, how do you do it. Would be grateful for that information, as I have spare HS 55s lying around also.

What Motor, ESC, battery and prop did you used?

Regards
Laythuye
Hi Laythuye

Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond earlier.

I did use the HS 55s and did not do any re enforcement. The screw locations for the servos had sufficient strength so I was not too worried. I would go the HS 50 route though if possible. Much easier since you have to open the holes for the HS 55s.

I used an eflite 480 with a 40 amp ESC with a 10x6 prop.

Hope that helps.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 09:12 PM
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Hi Laythuye

Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond earlier.

I did use the HS 55s and did not do any re enforcement. The screw locations for the servos had sufficient strength so I was not too worried. I would go the HS 50 route though if possible. Much easier since you have to open the holes for the HS 55s.

I used an eflite 480 with a 40 amp ESC with a 10x6 prop.

Hope that helps.
Thanks Noofly

I bought one already and I will use HS55 for the aileron and will use the HS45HB for the rudder and elevator. Will post some photos in a near future.

Laythuye
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 05:13 AM
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Thanks Noofly

I bought one already and I will use HS55 for the aileron and will use the HS45HB for the rudder and elevator. Will post some photos in a near future.

Laythuye
Look forward to the pics. Enjoy !
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Look forward to the pics. Enjoy !
Hi Noofly

Here are some of the photos of mini nemesis.

I will bite the bullet and decided to use only one servo for the elevator, so ended up with a connector rod for the two halves of elevator. And for the canopy, I ended up using an industrial strenght double sided tape instead of CA, as suggested in RCM & E magazine.

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Hi Noofly

Here are some of the photos of mini nemesis.

I will bite the bullet and decided to use only one servo for the elevator, so ended up with a connector rod for the two halves of elevator. And for the canopy, I ended up using an industrial strenght double sided tape instead of CA, as suggested in RCM & E magazine.

Laythuye
Looks good. I think reinforcing the servo mount point is a great idea. Waiting for the maiden and pics !
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Old Nov 08, 2012, 07:34 PM
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Looks good. I think reinforcing the servo mount point is a great idea. Waiting for the maiden and pics !
Hi Noofly

Here are some more photos; I did indeed reinforce the firewall for blind nuts with 1mm ply. As for the battery hatch, same as yours mine does not go all the way under the cowl as well.
Not maiden yet, waiting for a calm day to do it.
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Old Dec 02, 2012, 10:29 PM
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How dd she fly ?
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How dd she fly ?
Hi Noofly

Wind and rain on the weekends still prevent me from flying.

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Old Jan 05, 2013, 04:23 PM
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I just got myself one of these planes, looks great. What total weight are you getting?
The rekommended 0.85-0.95kg sounds a little high, considering the rather low wing area (248 sq. inch).
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How dd she fly ?
Hi Noofly

At long last, had a chance to maiden last weekend. She flies great, a little fast for my liking. Uneventful maiden, BUT on the third flight she came in a little too fast on landing and damaged the UC. On careful examination after the damange, I also found that I need more clearnce of the prop from the cowl, well back to the workbench.

surfer_kris, mine is a little on a heavier side (nearly 1 kg) , because of my reinforcement modifications. I think the lighter the aircraft the better for this model, what do you think Noofly?

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Old Jan 30, 2013, 02:58 PM
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Laythuye

how heavy is your motor? and what battery and how far forward does it have be to get the CG right ?
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 03:01 PM
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also, the manual says: •CG (Center of Gravity): 2.25-3.00 in

what did you guys use ?
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