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Old Aug 29, 2012, 09:19 AM
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You know I said the F-16, but that's not going to happen either due to the main retracts. Wasn't even thinking about that.

Still can't see a F-14. Is it doable yes....will they....no.
I've been dealing with HH for about 10 years and one thing they try to do is keep things basic enough for most people to do. The Habu32 and Phantom use the same gear short of 1servo. I can't see them going this route and it would have to be a true twin. The last E-Flite twin was the Deuces Wild, I just sold mine a few weeks ago. I had $1200 in my Deuce. A F-14 would be getting into the $1500+ range especially if you went with the Stu fan.

I'm going to build the Phantom after the flying season is over and plane on putting a Stu plus Tam's strut upgrade in it along with 8s. I planning on getting close to that $1500 mark with just a single motor/fan.
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 09:27 AM
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How long ago were the F4's retired? E-Flite have sold bucket loads of those including one to me.
Most Rhino's were retired back in the late 1990's, although unknown to most, we still have a manned F-4's in the USAF inventory as part of the 82nd ARTS (Aerial Target Squadron) at both Holloman AFB, NM and Tyndall AFB, FL. They are labeled the "Q" F-4 which is the designation for drone. We have both manned and unmanned drones in the inventory which are used as training aids (i.e - Targets!) versus the Raptor's and other fighters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82d_Aer...rgets_Squadron

http://www.fencecheck.com/content/in..._Target_Drones
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 09:30 AM
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Personally, I'd like to see a quality F4D Skyray. Lots of wing area, plenty of colorful schemes, has room for retracts and not something you see everyday. Yes I know that HET has an ARF available, but it just couldn't match E-flite for quality. To me, any of the 50s era jets would make good subjects.

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Old Aug 29, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Well if we're doing a wish list I'll take:

Mig-25
Mig-15
F-104 Won't happen
F-101 Voodoo

Only 36 and I'd rather see these than another Raptor or Lightning II
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Mig 21 to compliment F4 would be nice
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Personally, I'd like to see a quality F4D Skyray. Lots of wing area, plenty of colorful schemes, has room for retracts and not something you see everyday. Yes I know that HET has an ARF available, but it just couldn't match E-flite for quality. To me, any of the 50s era jets would make good subjects.

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A FORD would be sweet! Does HET still make that kit?
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 10:41 AM
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How long ago were the F4's retired? E-Flite have sold bucket loads of those including one to me.
The F-4 was in the inventory for a long time and saw military action, so there is always an affinity for such planes.
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Most Rhino's were retired back in the late 1990's, although unknown to most, we still have a manned F-4's in the USAF inventory as part of the 82nd ARTS (Aerial Target Squadron) at both Holloman AFB, NM and Tyndall AFB, FL. They are labeled the "Q" F-4 which is the designation for drone. We have both manned and unmanned drones in the inventory which are used as training aids (i.e - Targets!) versus the Raptor's and other fighters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82d_Aer...rgets_Squadron

http://www.fencecheck.com/content/in..._Target_Drones
Rhinos? We called them "bricks with wings."
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 11:51 AM
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That was a heck of an impressive article to read. I felt a pang of sorrow for the F4's getting all torn up but I can understand the logic. No doubt there will be other stunning aircraft blown to smitherenes also.
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 04:06 PM
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how big would this need to be (cogs whirring in my head as i could possibly start to produce one.... )
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 04:17 PM
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The ARTF's that I have found are either small foamy (HobbyKing) @1100mm, or Jet type models at 2,400mm.

I would say 1,500mm or thereabouts at full sweep?
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 04:17 PM
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Your looking about 65-75" wingspan for twin 90mm units
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 04:29 PM
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Hmm.... (what do i pic to make a Few ARF's of ? F-14 or F106 Interceptor?)

With two Shcubelers ds-90s or 2 CS 90mm 12 bladers ?
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Two JetFan 90's!
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 05:34 PM
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A quality f14 will never be a huge attraction due to the complexity and costs associated with them.

If you are looking to make money and stay in business for awhile and offer more than one airplane, then pick something that is highly requested and rarely fulfilled for your first model, simple as well as that will allow your design to evolve and give you less variable during the design phase.
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