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Old Nov 23, 2003, 03:00 PM
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Do I need to fly Both Ailerons & Rudder to do 3D?

I would like to get into flying 3D but my left hand is nowhere near as coordinated as my right hand. Does 3D flying involve both Rudder & Aileron? Can you fly 3D with just Aileron/Elevator or Rudder/Elevator?

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Old Nov 23, 2003, 03:33 PM
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Yes. Don't worry about it. It becomes second nature after a while. I'm always trying to use the left stick, even when I'm flying a 3 channel plane.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 03:49 PM
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That's the great thing about flying 3D...you will finally get to use all the sticks all the time!

I admit I was very weak in rudder skills when I started learning 3D...now I'm a lot better (still LOTS of room for improvement!!!!!!) but it gives me a sense of being a much more complete RC pilot.

It's a journey, not a destination.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by fwilly
It becomes second nature after a while.
What they don't say, is how long "a while" is..

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I admit I was very weak in rudder skills when I started learning 3D...now I'm a lot better (still LOTS of room for improvement!!!!!!)
Exactly. I built the 3DX because although my Super Diablotin is quite capable, the nut behind the gimbles isn't.. I only have about 10 flight on mine (although at >15 minutes, usually 20+ per flight, that's a LOT more stick time than any other model), I am actually getting close to being able to hover.

I'm not doing this to be able to hover, however, I'm doing it to become a much better all around pilot. Learning to correct the model in a hover is helping in other areas which need tons of improvement..
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 06:52 PM
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It helps to have a durable plane with really bad adverse yaw. That helped me learn upright rudder real fast. Right now, I'm working on getting the rudder right when in an inverted harrier.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 08:18 PM
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Ailerons, Elevator, Rudder, Throttle are all things you use when you fly 3D.

For hovering ailerons isn't a big deal, and for many, thats all 3D is.

For everything else, ailerons can play a big part in flying.

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Old Nov 24, 2003, 07:28 AM
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I disagree on ailerons not being a big deal for hovering. My 3DX has the 'smaller' ailerons, and it is tough to hold it (prevent torque roll) without massive aileron movement. I am thinking of extending the ailerons to the 'update' size to help here..
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 07:33 AM
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The larger ailerons help. You can also tilt it a little off vertical to help prevent the roll.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 08:20 AM
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Jeffery.....

"It's a journey, not a destination."

Man, if only everyone would adopt that motto......our hobby.....and our lives......would be much better off.

You said a mouthfull with that statement !!


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Old Nov 24, 2003, 08:23 PM
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Hovering is quite simple once you learn the basics. I realized as many do that over correcting always messes me up. Just focusing on the canopy and using a little elevator with slight rudder and you can keep it there for days hehehe.
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