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Old Aug 24, 2012, 03:13 AM
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Turnigy Talon V2 Quadcopter - Build Info, Advice and Help

First off my Quad is now built as you can see, this is the finished product, i'm very happy with it and have put the first few video's up of my first flights.


For anyone who's deciding to build their first Quad and have chosen the sleek looking Talon V2 as their frame, i'm hoping you can come in here and get any help or advice on what others have used for there build, what motors or esc's do you need, batteries, props and how much is it going to weigh and where to place things etc.and what set up for flights people use. I know when i was deciding to buy mine i was searching around for threads where people have built the Quad and what parts they used, i also went on the search for videos of the Talon V2.

This is my first build after owning the AR.Drone i got hooked on quads and wanted something that was my own that i'd built, so to Hobbyking i went for parts, my quad is now complete and i'm in the process of learning to fly it, i'm having a lot of fun and i must admit it's a little bit harder than i first though, but saying that iv'e only had maybe 5-6 flights where i'm just hovering so i'm getting used to it a little.

The main parts i used were -

Turnigy Talon V2
Turnigy Plush 25A ESC's Plus a Spare + Programming card
Turnigy Aerodrive 2830 1130kv Motors plus a Spare
Hobbyking KK2.0 Flight control Board Manual can be found here - http://rosa-hp.sakura.ne.jp/181270330X7478X47.pdf
Hobbyking Power Distribution Board
Turnigy Nano-Tech 2200mah 3S 35-70c Lipo
Slow Fly Props - 8x4.5 + 9x4.7 in Green/Black CW+CCW (buy a few when there in stock)
Turnigy 9X Transmitter Manual here -http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...X226591X16.pdf (Sorry about the LInks)

It was like Christmas came early when it all arrived

Also the small things you will need are things like Servo leads, nylon screws and spaces, heat shrink and extra wire also rubber grommets to help the FC board with vibrations a couple of battery straps, (I'd personally steer clear of the Turnigy one's, mine have virtually lost there stick in 3 weeks so i wouldn't recommend them.) 3.5mm bullet connectors and spare motor shafts and i also got two spare Talon V2 extended booms and I'd recommend getting more screws.

There will always be something you forget, iv'e made another two orders since the main one.

Anyway onto my build, i started by putting the frame together and the first problem i encounted were the M3 hex screws, maybe i was trying to tighten everthing up too tight but they kept rounding off the allen keys i have, i have since bought more M3 screws but with a Phillips head instead of the hex as they can be tightened up much more securely, i highly recommendgetting some in variuos sizes, there cheap enough and will save you problems down the line and I'll be using nylon lock nuts that i believe will be better also for tightening the arms.

Here's an issue that a few people are having with these mounts, it can be found on Pg.2 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1718162&page=2 basically the design of the mounts mean you need to have them the opposite way round to what the instructions tell you.

I also now have these that i'm going to try out instead of the PDB

i won't have to worry about where to mount the board then. (I actually found these to be no use as they were too rigid once all the bullet connectors were in place.

I'll put up more photo's and any updates when i get more time, but if anyone has any advice for others building the Talon V2 please share any ides

Also i'll put up any links to the Talon V2 builds below that i find:

TheFernMans build -
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1693730

Here's a 4 part guide on setting up a Quad with a Talon V2 Frame, pretty good if your starting out.(Not my Build by the way)
Part 1 - Parts and Set-Up
Basic Quadcopter Tutorial - Chapter 1 - Parts and Setup (6 min 59 sec)

Part 2 - Frame Construction
Basic Quadcopter Tutorial - Chapter 2 - Frame Construction (11 min 17 sec)

Part 3 - Power System
Basic Quadcopter Tutorial - Chapter 3 - Power System (20 min 17 sec)

Part 4 - KK2 Board, ESC Calibration,Throttle range and Props
Basic Quadcopter Tutorial - Chapter 4 - KK2 Board, ESC Calibration, throttle range and props (15 min 12 sec)



Here's a nice video of the Talon V2 with very similar set up
HobbyKing's KK2 board: FLIGHT FOOTAGE (8 min 34 sec)


I'd just like to add that you should seriously think of getting hold of the Phoenix Flight Simulator, it has a Quadcopter that you can fly and for someone building and flying for the first time it will help heaps in getting used to the controls, although it can never be like flying for real its the next best thing for honing your skills, especially when the weather is bad or you'd rather just stay indoors and practice. Highly Recommended

EDIT: Finally my very first test flight
Turnigy Talon V2 - Very First Flight (0 min 50 sec)

and my second, learning to hover on a full battery at the moment.
Turnigy Talon V2 Quad (0 min 39 sec)

Quad Training - Turnigy Talon V2 (1 min 49 sec)

Turnigy Talon V2 Quadopter (3 min 12 sec)

Happy Flying

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Old Aug 25, 2012, 09:20 AM
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I made up some LED,s to hook up to the balance connector and attached them to the arms at the front of the Quad.
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The KK2 board has been shipped so hopefully next week i can start building again.
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 04:09 PM
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Very impressive. Good stuff. I am building my first quad as well using the turnigy frame. Will frequent your thread more often and share insights with you!
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http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11458

I used this hex driver and it's great. I was running into the same issue with rounding the hex driver. Get this and those screws on the Talon v2 frame were tight! I was even thinking about changing all the hex for regular screw but after tightening them with this Turnigy hex driver it was perfect. Highly recommended.
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Oh and protect the little legs. Or maybe even think about another way for landing gears. Those little legs tend to twist the motor mounts when landing hard on them.

Maybe something like this. I just ordered this.

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/repair-an...and-white.html
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How are you supposed to use the new adapters instead of the pdb? I dont quite understand....got any pics to show how they will be used?
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Those are four 3.5mm to 4mm adapters. Basically you can solder 3.5mm male plugs and connect the reds and the blacks ends from the ESCs to those adapters.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...p?idProduct=68

Or you can solder the positive wire of each ESC to the back of those adapters. And the same for the negative wire.

Then connect the battery to those adapters. You wouldn't need a Power Distribution Board.

Oddcopter.com is a pretty cool site. Check out this wiring picture.
http://oddcopter.com/2012/04/13/quadcopter-wiring/
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http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11458

I used this hex driver and it's great. I was running into the same issue with rounding the hex driver. Get this and those screws on the Talon v2 frame were tight! I was even thinking about changing all the hex for regular screw but after tightening them with this Turnigy hex driver it was perfect. Highly recommended.
Yes i seen them but never ended up getting one, iv'e ordered more screws now anyway so i'll put up pics on what i do once they arrive i also plan on putting a M3 screw in the hole and drilling in to the CF frame to stop the arms twisting near the motors, it's pretty obvious that they designed it for that purpose.
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Oh and protect the little legs. Or maybe even think about another way for landing gears. Those little legs tend to twist the motor mounts when landing hard on them.

Maybe something like this. I just ordered this.

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/repair-an...and-white.html
I'm really not to keen on this type of landing gear, i'd rather keep the Quad looking as it is, i'll be flying on grass anyway until i get good at flying but i may look into adding some kind or padding at the end of the legs at some point, i'll see how they go.

Iv'e also added a link to your build so people can see what others are doing
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How are you supposed to use the new adapters instead of the pdb? I dont quite understand....got any pics to show how they will be used?
Pretty simple, obviously i soldered on bullet connectors on the esc's to fit the PDB, so all the Neg and all the Pos go into the female connectors
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Then its a case of soldering on a 4mm Bullet connector to the ends of the XT60 wires, i have a load of these already i just need to trim the wires down to the length i need once my 4mm bullet connectors arrive.
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A small tip for people ordering from hobbyking, use buddycodes to get things cheaper, you can try the Classifieds here - http://www.rcgroups.com/hot-online-deals-429/ or use this - http://hk.rc-international.info/swarm

I also found out that when ordering, lets say the frame, when you scroll down the extra parts you need are cheaper if you buy them together, also don't assume that's the cheapest price you'll get them. For instance buying the KK2 FC board is normally $29.99, now if you click on the Talon V1 Tricopter frame and scroll down its actually $24.28 saving over $5.
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Nice tip, too late for me.. Bought another KK2 at full price :/
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Nice tip, too late for me.. Bought another KK2 at full price :/
Yeah, my first one got sent back but got a refund after 3 days, so I ordered another one and it came to $27.99 then I added in a couple of other things and paid. THEN when i was looking at the new Talon Tri frame I noticed the KK2 board under it for $24.28 clicked on it and it went into my cart by which time it was too late for me to cancel my previous order lol.

Nevermind though hopefully someone can take advantage.
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Thanks alot. That explains and clarifys my queries

happy building!
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Hi guys,

Just wondering what brand soldering iron and tip would you reccomend for soldeing the bullet connectors and escs? Any personal perferences?

Thanks.
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Maybe something with adjust power/ heat and removable tips? A small tip for those bullet connector. They have small holes for the tip of the iron. but people have done all type of soldering with whatever iron the had. Even those cheap RadioShack one.
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