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Old Oct 24, 2012, 06:21 PM
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Let's face it, SH. Even the best and biggest companies miss a few things with new releases and instruction manuals are harder than we might think. There are also bound to be areas where the beta testers did things a bit different and the info didn't make it in before release. It seems to me that any ARF is going to have some things we would do differently. Some hardware we wouldn't choose. We also have to remember that chances are no inexperienced modelers had assembled one before the first boxes hit the shelves and doorsteps. It certainly doesn't sound like there are glaring flaws or any assembly quirks someone with a few builds can't handle.

I still remember my dismay when I realized my dream P-39 packed all the "instructions" into a half dozen line drawings and about 15 lines of script tucked into a nice little 11X5" strip in the corner of the plan sheet. In those days they figured that, if we had the audacity to think we could turn 20 pounds of raw balsa into a 7 pound flying work of art, they weren't going to insult us by telling us how!
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
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Nicely put. These instructions are little below par from what we expect from e flight, but look at this bird it's beautifull. Wanna be handheld get a parkzone .
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:30 PM
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Several posts ago I posted a 'reference mark'. This was to signify a more-or-less starting point (read the few posts just preceding that 'mark' where all the little 'nags' start showing up) -- and before it progresses beyond the point we're at now, I'll jump back in here with 'my point'.

We've seen nothing but glowing remarks made by those who've flown this new plane, with an apology here & there for something not characterized properly in the documentation etc. Everyone here is aware of the first announcements of the Mystique, and how long the time until they started shipping. It was a pretty good spell. Point is, seems there would've been plenty of time to check the documentation and fit of the components. After all, someone HAD to've assembled the planes the 'company' guys were flying before they were ever released, right? One has to kind've wonder who, & why the discrepancies weren't discovered, fixed and documentation revised before release. We've heard a lot of 'bragging' (for lack of a better word) about the quality & care that went into this bird.....but when it comes down to it, seems a bit all too typical considering all the preliminary hype about the plane & the praise heaped upon the issuer as a company.

Hype vs circumstantive ill fortune? Each can weigh and decide on his or her own -- but this plane I so wanted at first, much because of all the fine things I was hearing about it (notably, from those who were selling it).....wel-l-l-l-lll, let's just say this cherry has soured a bit at this point. Glad now I took 'wait & see' over 'pre-order'.

Bracing for the blast.

Yes, but mine is flying, so it couldn't be that bad.

Seriously, I agree. Horizon usually provides much better manuals than this.

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Old Oct 24, 2012, 11:26 PM
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Well mine is ready to test fly. I found this build to be pretty easy with a few difficult spots as previously noted but wow, I only started it late last week. :-)
The JR 11x manual is far more nebulous in setting up a full house electric sailplane but I've managed to wade through that as well.
I used Hitec hs-82mg servos in the wings and hs-225s for the ele and rudder.
Maiden flights soon I hope....
Let's soar!
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 10:47 AM
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When I set the throws last night, I saw that the servo links are binding, especially in the wing. Anybody else seen this?

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Old Oct 25, 2012, 11:52 AM
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Very bad in mine as well. I even popped off two servos from their epoxy bonds to the covers (which I just gave up and CA'd them with medium rubberized CA)..... while setting up the linkages.

Also find the wing-to-fuse alignment pins to be slightly off on the rear pins, too tight of a fit IMHO. And thirdly, the black keepers are complete junk

Just little things, but the kit is a great bargain and I'm very satisfied
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Have you decided on a fix? I'm thinking of making the opening a little bigger . . .

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Old Oct 25, 2012, 04:10 PM
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Since there is a hood that covers up the hole, might as well take advantage and enlarging the hole.
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 04:50 PM
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Would keeping the servo arms longer help?
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Would keeping the servo arms longer help?
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You can't. If they are any longer, they will not fit in the wing.

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Old Oct 25, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Since there is a hood that covers up the hole, might as well take advantage and enlarging the hole.
Slowly and carefully. Thanks.

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Old Oct 26, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Yes, I had to elongate each of the holes for the linkage in the wings because of binding.

I think someone at HH should go out to the warehouse, bring back a Mystique and try to build it. There are too many people experiencing the SAME problems. I am sure they want to fix this.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 01:00 AM
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Are you guys having issues with the flap or aileron servos or both?
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 05:08 AM
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Yes, I had to elongate each of the holes for the linkage in the wings because of binding.

I think someone at HH should go out to the warehouse, bring back a Mystique and try to build it. There are too many people experiencing the SAME problems. I am sure they want to fix this.
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What I said about wonderiing who built the planes for the HH guys that've flown them, & the disconnect with whomever wrote the book. Ya think?
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 07:13 AM
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Are you guys having issues with the flap or aileron servos or both?
Both - the flaps bind more than the ailerons on my plane. I can hear the servos buzzing.

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