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Old Oct 12, 2012, 12:21 PM
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FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEW TO ARFS AND KITS


When setting up a new ARF or kit, these tools will save you time, help you be more accurate and avoid problems with your set-up. Buy them once and use them for years.

Great Planes AccuThrow Deflection Meter
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK260&P=ML

CG Machine
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK259&P=ML

Always test our power set-up I use this wattmeter - Watts-up
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLMV0&P=ML
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 12:56 PM
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My prop came yesterday. While trying to loosen the collar on the motor, I stripped the set screw - had to drill it out. Hopefully, I can find a suitable replacement without resorting to tapping a new screw hole. I plan to experiment with a 4S power supply - I have an ICE 75 which is more than adequate.

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Old Oct 12, 2012, 02:31 PM
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However, I did have to slightly bend the pushrod to get it connected to the servo and fed thru the opening. I may have bent it too much.

Also, Can you or anyone confirm the CG position? The manual states 120mm, which is almost 50% of cord.
120 is correct, I have flown back as far as 122 and forward to 117, 120 seems to be the best. It has a swept high point so although it is almost 50% of the chord it isn't aerodynamically to0 far back.
Sliding the battery around will achieve this range however some have had to add a ounce to reach the forward location.

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Old Oct 12, 2012, 02:47 PM
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Awesome. Thanks for confirming Pete.
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 05:23 PM
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I tried to calculate the final cost of an electrical Mystique using the suggested components. I must have done it wrong, because I was aghast at the final cost.
Does anyone have a reliable "official" figure?
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 05:57 PM
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Thanks for the reply Pete.
From the photo below, you can see how close the aileron clevis is to the wing in the neutral position.
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Jeff great pic - it really helps us see what you are running into. I would do a couple of things - a slight bend to help the angle.... Or maybe use a EZ type connector on the aileron horn.

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Old Oct 12, 2012, 07:25 PM
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I tried to calculate the final cost of an electrical Mystique using the suggested components. I must have done it wrong, because I was aghast at the final cost.
Does anyone have a reliable "official" figure?
What was yours?
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 07:28 PM
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FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEW TO ARFS AND KITS


When setting up a new ARF or kit, these tools will save you time, help you be more accurate and avoid problems with your set-up. Buy them once and use them for years.

Great Planes AccuThrow Deflection Meter
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK260&P=ML

CG Machine
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK259&P=ML

Always test our power set-up I use this wattmeter - Watts-up
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLMV0&P=ML
Set up is paramount!!!

A WattsUp style meter is an ABSOLUTE MUST for any electric flyer. The throw meter is also quite helpful although you can do the job with a ruler if you like.

Personally I do not care for the CG machines. I always use my fingers to get the CG close enough and then I fly it and move the lipo until I get the plane to fly the way I like. You can check my blog for setup recommendations and steps to follow...
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 07:30 PM
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What was yours?
North of $900.
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 07:52 PM
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North of $900.
Sounds about right...

You can use less expensive components too.

Think of it this way. It is cheaper than a boat. It is cheaper than collecting classic cars. It is WAY cheaper than flying full scale.

When you compare it to other full house gliders it isn't too bad but I get it.

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Old Oct 12, 2012, 07:58 PM
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It's much less expensive than a 600 or 700mm helicopter too!
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 08:15 PM
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It's also cheaper than golf!
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 08:54 PM
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Well, first off, thanks for the replies.

It just was a bit of a shock, but nothing insurmountable.

I will spend quite a bit more time learning on my foamy sailplane before venturing into the $1,000 world, however. "Bring it home whole" would be my mantra then.

But they are things of beauty and grace, and enable us, in a poor way, to emulate the soaring creatures whom we envy.

It just bugs me that the soaring creatures do it all with a brain the size of a large marble, and probably have no appreciation for their own grace and beauty.
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 09:05 PM
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That is a good plan - cheap first.
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
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One can also find very good electronics that cost less than the recommended items.

We also should not belittle the brains of our feathered, distant, relatives. Most birds use language, most can solve problems, and some can even use tools. Heck! Some crows actually make tools! It really isn't much of an insult to call someone a "bird brain". And they fly much, much, better than we can.

Over the decades I've been flying I have shared thermals and slopes with many birds and I have only out climbed them on a few, maybe four, occasions. I suspect that's because they weren't trying.
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