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Old Aug 20, 2012, 05:47 PM
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(NEW) ARSON 153mm EDF

I would like to welcome the new ARSON EDF, the ultimate electrical ducted fan unit. The ARSON EDF is a 153mm fan with a modular interchangeable 18 blade impeller. This impeller can be interchanged from the stock 18 blade to a 9 blade impeller or 6 blade fan system. This modular change can be done by removing the blades and adding a patented spacer to meet the needs of your desired model requirements.

As homage to the great R/C model builder Byron Leroy Godbersen, founder of the Byron Original, the ARSON EDF was designed based on the simplistic design of the Byron fan. A decision in 2007 to convert the Byron F-15 into an EDF with the introduction of more reliable and powerful batteries and motor units was implemented and upon it's completion was clear; the Byron F-15 had new life!

During the time spent operating the Byron F-15, there were notable deficiencies in the Byron fan itself. After many successful flights, the model was lost and upon review and inspection of the wreckage, it was determined that the Byron fan stators with the edf conversion failed, losing one engine in midflight which made for a spectacular hole in the ground. Thus, the quest to build what is now the ARSON EDF was initiated. Several factors were taken into account such as the same dimensions were needed as the Byron Fan, the Fan had to produce at least twice the thrust that the Byron/Scorpion combination was producing, it had to have the reliability and stability behind the power, and most of all, had to have character. This fan must be attractive enough to be proud to install in your model.

After years of trial and error a good concept began to develop and the final product has become a first of its kind. A modular EDF unit, the ARSON EDF, comes with a standard 18 blade impeller designed to transform itself to a 9 or 6 blade impeller to suit your EDF/Model requirements. By designing 2 different impeller spacers, the modeler can separate the fan and install spacers for their desired impeller design.

Depending on the response I receive on this post, this will gauge the production of the unit in the marketplace. If you have an interest in purchasing the ARSON EDF, send an email to info@arsonedf.com or you can send me a PM. Iíve included a few photos of the ARSON EDF which is scheduled to launch the production phase on or about December 1, 2012. Just in time for Christmas!! We will be posting videos and performance data of the prototype by October 1, 2012.

If you are also interested in following our progress, please visit our website and blog located at www.arsonedf.com starting September 1, 2012. In the meantime, send us an email to info@arsonedf.com or PM to receive updates and information.

Specs:

Inside Dia: 153 mm
Outside Dia:156mm
Stators: 9
Impeller: 18 blades
Shroud Length: 110mm
Length with motor mount: 147mm
Motor mount inner dia: 56.38 mm

Motors that will be tested with the ARSON EDF
Nue 1527, 1900 series, and 2200 series
Hacker A-50L Turnado
HET Typhoon 800 series
(If there's any suggestion on other high power motors that you believe can make the performance of the ARSON EDF better please send me a PM)

Power System 12-14s or larger depending on the motor (Nue 2200) and ESC.

RCU (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...m.htm#11199948 )

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Joe
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 06:00 PM
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Coooooool

How about some performance spec/data.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 06:18 PM
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Looks very interesting! I have been flying Byron as EDF for years. Any idea as to est. cost.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 06:22 PM
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wow! id love to see some testing charts! looks like a very solid design!
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 06:58 PM
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What is an 800 series Typhoon????
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 07:06 PM
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Wow! Definitely waiting for numbers!
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 07:07 PM
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Gents,

The performance specs, videos and pricing will be posted early September. The pricing is very competitive and will be less than the EVF and some other smaller EDF systems. If this information becomes available sooner, I will post immediately on this thread.

In reference to the HET tyhoon 800 here's the link.
http://www.highendrc.com/

Also, we'd like your input on your preference of high performance motors if they are different than the ones that were already posted.

Cheers,
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Joe:
Any thoughts on the KV for the HET 800 series motors for the 18 blade rotor? Possibly something like 400 or 535 KV?

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Old Aug 20, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Performance data and cost is what will peak interest. You got me to subscribe I want to see where this goes.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 07:39 PM
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Very nice modular design. Looking forward to hearing more about this product.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 08:13 PM
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ED,

We contacted HET to get performance specs on the Typhoon 800-73 590KV and HET adviced performance specs are not yet available as of last friday.

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Old Aug 20, 2012, 08:27 PM
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Have you talked to Hacker concerning the A50-10L Turnado motor?
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 08:34 PM
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Bob,

We have not. All the performance on the A-50 Turnado that we have collected are from modellers on RCU/RCG. Are there any performance issues to be concerned about? I know Hacker makes really good motors and they perform very well.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 08:38 PM
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If the rotor cost is kept competitive I'm all in, seems like it'll work with regular Byron shroud.

Will you be making adapters for regular Byron shroud?



Old Byron fan tested at 17.2lbs 3700 watts...

~20lbs at 4100 watts, that's a 55usd esc running with head room

EDF is getting VERY VERY interesting

Socshooter, what would make this more interesting is a shroud with no lip ....straight...I can show you pics why..

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 12:01 AM
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If the rotor cost is kept competitive I'm all in, seems like it'll work with regular Byron shroud.

Will you be making adapters for regular Byron shroud?



Old Byron fan tested at 17.2lbs 3700 watts...

~20lbs at 4100 watts, that's a 55usd esc running with head room

EDF is getting VERY VERY interesting

Socshooter, what would make this more interesting is a shroud with no lip ....straight...I can show you pics why..

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Looks like they are trying to shoot for twice that, we shell see if they are successful .

This should be something to keep an eye on.
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