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Old Aug 12, 2012, 11:58 AM
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So How Much Voter Fraud Exists?

Not much, if you bother to read the factual data.

Still baffled why Republicans are pushing another tax onto the public to cure a problem which statistically, doesn't exist.

Unless...
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Its simply. Democrats are the ones who benefit from voter fraud, so naturally republicans want to stop that.

It is also clear that the current admin is trying to capitalize on fraudulant voters using his "community organizer" tactics.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
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Its simply. Democrats are the ones who benefit from voter fraud, so naturally republicans want to stop that.

It is also clear that the current admin is trying to capitalize on fraudulant voters using his "community organizer" tactics.
Capitalize on mere thousandths of a percentage of votes? It's also disingenuous to presume voter fraud benefits only democrats. It doesn't.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
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Voter fraud is real and has happened! Here is a report of a person being convicted of felonies in doing voter fraud.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...aud/?mobile=nc
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Its simply. Democrats are the ones who benefit from voter fraud, so naturally republicans want to stop that.

It is also clear that the current admin is trying to capitalize on fraudulant voters using his "community organizer" tactics.
Since voter fraud is statistically insignificant, no one benefits from it. Who would benefit from passing laws to make it more difficult to vote?
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Current law makes it hard to prove/prosecute.

When everything else requires ID (including collection of welfare-type benefits), what is the problem? For those who don't drive, cards should be furnished at no cost to the bearer. A drivers license or military ID should be sufficient as well.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 03:22 PM
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A student ID for a student at a Texas university will not suffice. If you look underage, a valid passport will not let you buy beer in Texas. You have to have a state issued ID.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 03:58 PM
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Current law makes it hard to prove/prosecute.

When everything else requires ID (including collection of welfare-type benefits), what is the problem? For those who don't drive, cards should be furnished at no cost to the bearer. A drivers license or military ID should be sufficient as well.
So you admit this is a tax on everyone? To "cure" a problem which is, in reality, infinitesimal?

FWIW, voting is not like "everything else"?
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 04:04 PM
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No voter fraud? No voter intimidation? How about these guys? Oh yeah, that's right, Holder said it was okay.



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Old Aug 12, 2012, 04:12 PM
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No voter fraud? No voter intimidation? How about these guys? Oh yeah, that's right, Holder said it was okay.



When did Holder say it was Okay? I thought they were told to move along, and they did so. NO complaints were received about those guys, so there was really no basis for turning it into the proverbial Federal Case.

FOX News is corrosive to critical thought and reason. Kill your television.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 04:35 PM
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No voter fraud? No voter intimidation? How about these guys? Oh yeah, that's right, Holder said it was okay.



One photo from 3+ years ago in a nation of 300+ million the size of a continent.

lol!!

They look like fun dudes, I'd hang with 'em; bend their ears a bit...
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Nice people you want to hang with.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p50qHzC01E0
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 05:37 PM
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Nice people you want to hang with.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p50qHzC01E0
Totally funny how mixed couples kiss in front of them and sip at their lemonade.

Looks like no one but FOX News even notices them.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 05:43 PM
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When ever I see that black panther picture I think about staging a similar picture at the next election. Nerd style with rolled up diplomas as bats

I still havent figured out how they could have changed the outcome of hidden ballots or secret votes.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 05:57 PM
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Stop checking theatre tickets and let anybody in that wants to see the movie.

Since you aren't checking if anyone is cheating, you won't have proof that anyone is cheating. But, according to you, that proves that no one is cheating. You are using fallacious logic, of course, but there's no law against that. Fortunately, we're passing some laws that prevent voter fraud - and allow us to tell if it's happening.
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