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Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:29 AM
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Some folks problems are not with their radio systems. For instance, trolls who have never owned a particular brand, but can't help themselves and constantly berate it. Perhaps this is due to having bought a different brand, and needing to feel good about it? I don't know, I'm not a head shrinker, but sometimes it sure seems that way.

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well put Andy !
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 08:52 AM
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I agree Spektrum needs to make a clean cut with the past and convert to a modulation technology that is proven to be reliable. The first step for Spektrum is they have to come to the realization that their current system is never going to be reliable enough.

They have; DSMX.

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Old Oct 14, 2012, 08:58 AM
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I agree Spektrum needs to make a clean cut with the past and convert to a modulation technology that is proven to be reliable. The first step for Spektrum is they have to come to the realization that their current system is never going to be reliable enough.


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They have; DSMX.
And, there is nothing wrong with DSM2 either.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 09:07 AM
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I agree Spektrum needs to make a clean cut with the past and convert to a modulation technology that is proven to be reliable. The first step for Spektrum is they have to come to the realization that their current system is never going to be reliable enough.

What issues did you have with your dx8 again? I recall you seemed to be quite unhappy with yours and had issues with the updates and various other aspects of your tx......
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 09:10 AM
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And, there is nothing wrong with DSM2 either.
If you don't trust DSM2, then don't use it and stick with DSMX.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 10:26 AM
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What issues did you have with your dx8 again? I recall you seemed to be quite unhappy with yours and had issues with the updates and various other aspects of your tx......
He has a futaba

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Old Oct 14, 2012, 02:38 PM
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And, there is nothing wrong with DSM2 either.
DSM2 isn't bad. As long as you're not in a crowded environment. I still use it on some of my planes (mostly UMs). I'm located in the middle of MO out in the country (I love the country BTW) so I don't worry about crowded environments that much. I have switched protocols myself though; JR's DMSS. I will be keeping the DX8 for my UM/UMXs.

The protocol isn't as much of a problem as people would like to believe. I'm willing to bet that user error is the number one culprit. Another problem was the required voltage levels and reboot times of the older RXs. That has since been changed. With that said, if you can use DSMX, use it. It is clearly a better protocol than DSM2.

Bottom line is to use what works for you, but also to understand it. The more you understand, the better you are in helping yourself and others.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:11 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:27 PM
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Yeah, but he sure voted in every dx8 poll like he was an owner with issues

Quite a few do this and other negative brand spatter when they dont own a product on here and is why I always think all the polls are a joke. Though like the title of this thread I am unsure if it is really hate or just the want for their current brand to be the best or to justify their purchase in some odd way or something else

Though most of the time it makes for entertaining reading
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:35 PM
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I know, but he sure voted in every dx8 poll like he was an owner with issues

Quite a few do this and other negative brand spatter when they dont own a product on here and is why I always think all the polls are a joke. Though like the title of this thread I am unsure if it is really hate or just the want for their current brand to be the best or to justify their purchase in some odd way or something else

Though most of the time it makes for entertaining reading
Agreed. It was good to see the main pollster, Victory Pete, was finally banned from here for being a troll.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:46 PM
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I didn't agree with him on many subjects and didn't think the way he went about sharing/discussing his views was productive but RCG handled the situation and took action.

There is no real need to bring it up anymore and to talk about him.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:50 PM
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I didn't agree with him on many subjects and didn't think the way he went about sharing/discussing his views was productive but RCG handled the situation and took action.

There is no real need to bring it up anymore and to talk about him.
Disagree. His fate serves as a reminder.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:16 PM
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what? radio frequency was technically impossible 7 years ago......WOW. Did Spektrum invent RC too?
The video shows a US event (Joe Nall). My replies (this and previous) reflect US-based answers.

Back in the dark ages we had 27, 72, 50, and 53 MHz frequencies available (they still are). 27 has 6 channels, 72 has 50, 50 has 10, and 53 MHz has 8.

6 + 50 + 10 + 8 is much less than 100.

In 72 MHz, the spacing and other technical conditions allowed for interference when there were transmitters of particular frequencies on at the same time. As a result, we in the impound had to make sure that we didn't allow simultaneous operation of transmitters on the same frequency or in combinations that could create those interferences.

With the advent of Spektrum and the wholesale adoption of our technology, and later by other brands coming along, most contests went to a 2.4gHz-only policy. Users on the old bands either had to leave their radios home, or manage their radios among themselves. (Staffing the impound was never a fun chore when hosting an event).

Now, armed with these facts, please explain how users at Joe Nall would have have the ability to launch 100 planes simultaneously as was demonstrated by the video.

Andy

US legal frequency list: http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/frequencies.aspx
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:20 PM
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Some folks problems are not with their radio systems. For instance, trolls who have never owned a particular brand, but can't help themselves and constantly berate it. Perhaps this is due to having bought a different brand, and needing to feel good about it? I don't know, I'm not a head shrinker, but sometimes it sure seems that way.

Andy
And the same logic can be applied to those who vehemently defend Spektrum. I guess they have invested in Spektrum and now must defend their investment to themselves. Or perhaps they have never owned another brand and don't know what they are missing.

The real head-scratcher is how those who have had to return the same radio multiple times can remain so loyal. Surely such experiences would cause a rational consumer to lose faith.

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Why have I never had a single problem with my DX8?
Ahhhhh.... The ever useful sample size of ONE.... I guess that someone who smokes their entire life without getting cancer proves that smoking doesn't cause cancer...
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:33 PM
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...the real head-scratcher is how those who have had to return the same radio multiple times can remain so loyal. Surely such experiences would cause a rational consumer to lose faith....
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