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Old Oct 10, 2012, 06:56 AM
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Don't let the door hit you on the arse....
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 06:59 AM
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My opinion, you don't have to share it don't think there's a single unsponsored pilot in this forum that flies large scale self made models or uber-expensive ones with spektrum anyway. Not because spektrum wouldn't be reliable now, but because their reputation precedes them.

//unsubscribing.
Early on, a lot of them did.
Was Jason Shulman sponsored when he had that spektacular crash at Joe Nall?
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 07:04 AM
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...snip... But if I were to fly unsponsored aircraft in the $2k-$20k range spektrum would not be my choice. ...snip...
//unsubscribing.
I have a couple airplanes in the 2k range and I'm not a sponsor pilot and have no problems using Spektrum.

If you don't want to use the brand it's all good, still haven't figured out why the people that don't use it feel the need to rant about issues with the product.
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 07:12 AM
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I'm with you, Chip: I started with the DX 7 about five years ago, and recently bought a DX 8. Now, compared to my JR X9303, the DX 8 does "feel" cheap, but I love its features and it works great.

I'm a hobby-type flyer, and it is more than adequate for my needs.

HH and Spektrum have been great for me.
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 07:30 AM
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Say, let's get the hate thing really going an I'll start: I hate rock 'n roll....I hate telephone solicitors....I hate debt collectors....I hate, just to hate....
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 07:47 AM
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The movement away from Spektrum is slower than you seem to suggest, but it is happening.
There is no evidence of that here in New York State. What facts do you have to support your statement?
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:01 AM
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If you don't want to use the brand it's all good, still haven't figured out why the people that don't use it feel the need to rant about issues with the product.
+2 - That is what baffles me... If you have made your choice off you go.

I think many were strangely hurt when Spektrum started eating up the US market share of radios. Then when they crash their airplane (99% pilot error) they need something to blame. Then they hear about brownout. Then they blame their mistake on the "Spekky brand brownout issues". Then they switch back and gripe about it. Brand loyalty dies hard.

Not sure what they will do when they crash Futaba, Airtronics and Hitec. But they will find something to blame. 100% of my Spektrum crashes were me, well actually it was the grounds fault, and gravity - yea that's it.

Mike
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Movement away???
Somewhere in a place known only to a select few - I suppose--- In checking with hobby stores -randomly - we see the opposite .
Apparantly some brand loyalists just can't accept that they have bought an orphan-
A good orphan but nevertheless -an orphan.
As for superiority --- features is what it's all about now .
select a system which flies what YOU like to fly- gettnig the RF right isn't a problem for any of today's vendors -
learning to use the systems is still a problem for some - but what else is new ?
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:10 AM
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Well, there is movement and there is movements: I "suspekt" the latter!
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:18 AM
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There is no evidence of that here in New York State. What facts do you have to support your statement?
Observations at the Nats over the past 5 years and asking a few hobby shops why they no longer carry Spektrum but still support their users as they make the transition. Purely anecdotal. Flame away
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:24 AM
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It's NOT really a Hate thing

DSM2 is a flawed system (search RCG for the Lockouts , Not Brownouts)
Spektrum themselves have recognized this and introduced DSMX
which is a MUCH better system for interference rejection.

Otherwise WHY was DSMX introduced ?

I see this thread as a DSM2 "Damage limitation" exercise by Spektrum
and their representatives , no more no less.

The Same ppl defend DSM2 over and over again .... that in itself is suspicious.
DSM2 Models Lockout and crash the Safety issues are ignored

It's ALL the customer's fault

Yet other systems don't have issues with Lockout and Brownout
anywhere like DSM2 has .....

I welcome DSMX I really do,
I'm just sad DSM2 was not killed off with the DSMX release .


I'm also sad that Spektrum and JR
are no longer involved.
Spektrum have lost JR's many years experience building Tx's
perhaps that's why you see the issues now with Spektrum Tx mechanics
and quality control .

No doubt this post will be pulled apart
by the "Spektrum lovers" on here (you will see the same names)
but it's my honest opinion based on the DSM2 Lockouts I have seen.
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:41 AM
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Geez, I'm just an old poot, but DSM2 has worked fine for me for 5 years-now, I also have a Hitec Optic 6, with a Spectra module, and an A-9. Horses for courses....
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Geez, I'm just an old poot, but DSM2 has worked fine for me for 5 years-now, I also have a Hitec Optic 6, with a Spectra module, and an A-9. Horses for courses....

You don't have DSMX as an option then
Spektrum won't make a module for your Tx
your stuck on DSM2.

And now the Fog begins .......
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Well, I also have a DX 8!

My point is that while I am a "fan boy," it seems my passion is based on "fact," or my successful usage of a DX 7, first, and now a DX 8, along with a JR X9303 (not converted as of yet to DSMX.)

Nacht und fog....
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Otherwise WHY was DSMX introduced ?
When DSM2 was introduced, there were transmitter impounds and only 6-8 pilots in the air at a time. Even then, you had to be careful about which frequencies were on the air to prevent certain combinations from causing shoot-downs.

Who expected Spektrum to change all that virtually overnight? Suddenly events that used to be big could now become monstrous, and get rid of impounds at the same time. Instead of 6-8, 60-80 pilots were flying at a time!

The system that provided reliable support for over 40 planes in the air (something beyond anybody's wildest dreams at the time) needed to support way more. Way way more! So we released DSMX - built upon DSM2.

THAT'S why DSMX came about. Not because of a "flaw" but because of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Andy
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