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Old Nov 17, 2003, 09:57 PM
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Sale is pending? Pending with who on what? I am not selling anything?!
-Michael
I'm going to spell it out. I'm looking at the post as they come up, your's comes up in reply to my connector prob and all it contained was a 'sermon' to get Deans Ultra's. Not nary a mention that I should just 'bend' my contacts, what I wanted to do but with the OK first.

Then minutes later, William A, who has helped me a LOT in the past, even just last nite, inputs all I need to do is 'tweak' the wire connectors. So then I look back at your post, it now mysteriously includes Williams input on top like it was always there!

William A is someone I can count on. I don't like it looking like he made a post that was JUST stated, and repetitive. He doesn't care I'm sure, but I don't like him looking the least bit bad after the time and trouble he has gone through to help me in the past.

If you want to deny your edit done like 3 minutes after William A's post was to correct your link, which needed it I know..I don't care. I was online live watching them come up, and be edited in your case, and had read your original reply to me. William A was the one that helped me with the CORRECT INFO I needed to confirm. Not a sermon to buy Dean's, which I'm familiar with, and just don't see the need for right now. Why don't you just relax, chill, and learn along with the rest of us?

Now this post is not helpful, or relevant, but is truthful. I'm not going to leave this post up, but I can see a pattern developing quickly since Part Two has begun. You feel a need to establish yourself as the 'expert' for any 'new-comers' to Part 2 I guess.
Just earlier, my post second on this thread, about the 350C, you included in your reply you had said the same stuff in the beginning of Part 1, which is back in early June. I guess you could feel me thinking..."sure,... the 350C wasn't even out till months after that thread started", ...well sure enough, that post mysteriously 'morphed' into something else. Boomerace is the one that got everyone straight on what prop to use with the NEW motor in mid-August. It even looks like you are lining yourself up to take credit for boomers 'hardwood' down/right thrust mod saying above...you covered that in the other thread. "I think". That's sad.

Just above regarding my repair. You say that is exactly what boomerace is saying to do, and you 'think' you covered in the early Part 1. THAT'S not the mod! I hope you didn't cover a mod you don't even know what it looks like, or what it actually is.

You say "Thankyou" to me for answering your questions about fuse reinforcement, ...you didn't ASK any questions. You stated your ignorant opinion on it, and I 'quoted it back', and gave you input from someone that has 14 yrs. experience with aluminum, very experienced wood-working, ...and has been actually doing the mod.

I'm not going to let something this stupid bother me, I just had somethings to clear up. I hope I did that, and we can go on with this thread. I'll give you a tip though, boomer didn't learn all he knows by starting a thread on the ezone. He's lived it. Give yourself time, you'll get there.

Sorry. I apologize to ALL. Really, ...I do.
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Old Nov 17, 2003, 10:19 PM
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Sorry Bubba I've been through the same thing with Michael many times, sent him many PM's, deleted posts where I challenged his "input"and he never changes so I just ignore it but I no longer delete posts to make him look good!
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Old Nov 17, 2003, 10:37 PM
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Wow. I hadn't thought to look back, and the posts DID change!

LOL... Bubba- I think you should leave the post up.. Modify it if you feel it's appropriate after your anger subsides, but it's pretty darn valid.

Aeropenguin- I can kind of understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree with your methods. No one is perfect, and saving face isn't always terribly important. Not here. This is the most open and accepting online community I have had the pleasure of being a part of. If you make mistakes, you won't be judged. You might be a little red-faced, but WHO CARES? I'm here to learn, and share the tiny bit of knowledge I have and unload all the silly opinions I have. If I'm one percent as helpful to one person as so many people here have been to me, I'd be somewhat redeemed...

Ok, that's enough of my own soap box sermon, lol.

Back on topic, any thoughts on using a 280 in a 5:1 gearbox with an 11 x 8 prop? I wanted to experiment with an EPS100c, but doubted it's usefullness out of doors. This rig was originally used on a powered sailplane.

Bill in the Delta
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Old Nov 17, 2003, 10:37 PM
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Sorry Bubba I've been through the same thing with Michael many times, sent him many PM's, deleted posts where I challenged his "input"and he never changes so I just ignore it but I no longer delete posts to make him look good!
boomer
Then I won't either.

All I'll say is "Welcome All", to part 2 of the "Ultimate Slow Stick Help Thread". A ton of valuable info/help will be found, ...and one 'ego trip'.

Enjoy!
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Old Nov 17, 2003, 10:43 PM
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Wow. I hadn't thought to look back, and the posts DID change!

LOL... Bubba- I think you should leave the post up.. Modify it if you feel it's appropriate after your anger subsides, but it's pretty darn valid.

Aeropenguin- I can kind of understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree with your methods. No one is perfect, and saving face isn't always terribly important. Not here. This is the most open and accepting online community I have had the pleasure of being a part of. If you make mistakes, you won't be judged. You might be a little red-faced, but WHO CARES? I'm here to learn, and share the tiny bit of knowledge I have and unload all the silly opinions I have. If I'm one percent as helpful to one person as so many people here have been to me, I'd be somewhat redeemed...

Ok, that's enough of my own soap box sermon, lol.

Back on topic, any thoughts on using a 280 in a 5:1 gearbox with an 11 x 8 prop? I wanted to experiment with an EPS100c, but doubted it's usefullness out of doors. This rig was originally used on a powered sailplane.

Bill in the Delta
Bill,
For lazy flying around it should work fine but I think you will find that with the big SS wing and low wing loading. Much wind at all and you will be watching your pride and joy disappear into the sunset with the motor going full bore to try to get it back!
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Old Nov 17, 2003, 11:02 PM
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Boomer...

Thanks, I was hoping for lazy and slow. I anticipate the AUW to be about 15 ounces, somehow I can't build em light. Maybe I should add another battery pack in parallel for ballast and extended flight times.....

Bill
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 11:48 AM
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Found out you can damage the wing. Had a camera on board and was doing a low pass close to a soccer net. Hit the pole with the wing and warrped the left side. We are going to try some heat to see if we can fix it. If not then into the spare kit for a new wing.

Dick
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 04:51 PM
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WOW! How fast were you going? I'm still unable to break or warp it(of course I'm warped, so I wouldn't notice). I've used a hair dryer on high in the past for other foam wings, but watch it, once it starts to go, it becomes pliable pretty fast.

Congratulations on your wing warpage!

Did you at least get some good footage or snap shots?

Bill
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 07:01 PM
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OK, I admit it. My mistake. I know. Sorry if I have offended anybody or did something that wasn't ethical.
I had typed up more, but I'll just end it here.
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 02:18 PM
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hey Bubba - if you dont want to solder or tape the motor/esc connection, do what i did and get a pack of tiny zip ties and just tie them on up. nice firm connection that can be easily broken when your motor craps out on ya.

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Old Nov 19, 2003, 02:51 PM
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hey Bubba - if you dont want to solder or tape the motor/esc connection, do what i did and get a pack of tiny zip ties and just tie them on up. nice firm connection that can be easily broken when your motor craps out on ya.

this mod has been copyrighted by the US patent office. any use without the express written consent of the myself is prohibited. please mail all royalty checks through paypal or other certified funds.

jeff
Sorry Jeff but that's a bad idea. Anything but a soldered joint or a good connector like a micro Dean can fail at a crucial moment when power is most needed!
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 04:25 PM
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Brass tube/fiberglass wing support

A quick question from a guy who can't make out the directions nor clearly see pics posted on part 1 of this thread that have tried to show the answer to my question, which is:

Do the fiberglass rods (with brass tubing mod) get glued and taped on the EDGE of the LE or on that 1/16" of flat-foam flashing on the top side of the wing? I've tried to ID this from previous posts and pics but can't, and the directions are certainly not clear - at least to me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 04:34 PM
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Hi aeronca,

I have built a few of these wings now, and actually experimented with placement... If I put it right up against the edge(neither above or below the plane of the wing), it fits the wing mounts best. There is a "cutout" on the leading edge on each side of the wing to accomodate the fiberglass rods being mounted in this way. If you look toward the wingtips, you'll see the recess where the FG rod fits. I've tried mounting them below and then shimming up the TE of the wing to compensate. Honestly, I haven't broken a wing yet, so can't tell you if one is stronger than the other. I use pro-bond to adhere them to the wing and super glue to glue the fiberglass rods into the brass tubing. Gotta act fast as the super glue may dry before you get the rod all the way in.

In my opinion, the way it's meant to work is to mount the FG rods butted up against the LE of the wing.

Hope that helps...

Bill in the Delta
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 04:41 PM
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I use epoxy or thick CA but as to placement what Bill said!
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Old Nov 19, 2003, 04:47 PM
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Thanks Bill and Boomer. As always, great answers on a great thread and faster than a speeding bullet!
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