Convair XFY-1 (Pogo) - Page 6

Alfredo Rubio · May 14, 2004, 07:25 PM

Very nice pics, looks grat in hover !!!!!! the spiner complete very nice the nose lines.

Cheers

Alfredo Rubio

Ed Couch · May 15, 2004, 12:17 AM

Jochen, the C/G is around 30 percent. Most of what I do is by guess and by gosh and 40 plus years experience. Electric is sweet in that I can be conservative and start nose heavy and work my way back to the fine point just before things gets unmanageble tail heavy where the aircraft will begin to hover so that I can control it more or less. It works for me. Don't know how you will be doing your plans but I took a 1/2 page 3 view of the Pogo to Kinkos and had them blow it up to 300 percent. Took that home and inked in the lines and also added the enlarged controls surfaces. Figured out a basic wing area and roughly calculated the overall weight of the components. Figured how much I needed to enlarge the plans to meet those parameters I was looking in size and wingloading and went back to Kinkos for the final cut. Went to the machines that produced 11/17 copies for a nickel or so and broke the plan down to tiles making several copies of each section of the plan. Went back to shop and cut out the various parts from the copies of the plan to use as templates for the parts thusly never cutting up the original. The various trips back to Kinkos still cost me less than ten bucks to do and I still have all my templates plus the original plans to work from. Takes very little time to do and the airframe outline is exactly scale. Again its all just for fun. ed

Petefoss · Dec 02, 2004, 07:22 PM

I built a Pogo from Hippo's 5 mm white foam about the same size as Ed's. Learned an important lesson on the first flight. Servo tape sticks great to the silver paint that I painted the foam with. However, the silver paint doesn't stick very well to the foam. My elvon servos came loose in flight so I had a rather abrupt landing. Looks repairable enough to learn some flight characteristics on before I build another one.

ggunners · Mar 08, 2005, 11:41 AM

Just completed a Flying Model Simulator (FMS) version of the Lockheed Salmon XFV-1.

Download it from My Website.

-- ggunners

landru · Mar 08, 2005, 03:33 PM

ggunners,

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get your model to work (FMS v2.0 beta 7 on W2K). What am I doing wrong?

Andrew

gbarc · Mar 08, 2005, 03:51 PM

Download the newest FMS alpha 8. Works Great!!! But damn that pogo is a bear to fly!!

Greg

ggunners · Mar 08, 2005, 05:19 PM

Please try FMS 2 alpha 8. It will work with both version 2.7 and 2.8 models.

-- ggunners

landru · Mar 08, 2005, 06:11 PM

Hmmm. FMS 2 alpha 8.5 just won't run on my w2k box. I just tried the install three times. Couldn't find an help in the FMS FAQ. Any hints?

Andrew

ggunners · Mar 08, 2005, 07:04 PM

landru,

Many folks are running on W2K. I've got 2 machines with it. FMS 2.8 does require at least one COM port active so if you have them all disabled in your ROM BIOS, enable one.

Without further details on your setup, I'm at a loss to suggest something else. There are known problems with some laptop graphics chips. Also known problems with high-end ATI cards unless you have the latest drivers.

Let us know some more details, maybe we can help.

-- ggunners

landru · Mar 08, 2005, 07:11 PM

Thanks for those suggestions, ggunners. I'll have another go at it when I have a little more time tomorrow.

Cheers,
Andrew

dougmontgomery · Mar 08, 2005, 07:15 PM

Well This isn't an indoor but it is out of FFF and could be made one, Thought you guys might like the video displayed by intermision this was my Pogo XFY-1 if you haven't already seen it, Post#77, Doug Montgomery

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...4&page=6&pp=15

dougmontgomery · Mar 08, 2005, 07:23 PM

Lockheed XFV-1
And If you were interested in another of my unfinished projects, this would be great indoors with a cd rom or a feigao/ips gearbox. I started and ended this project due to lack of power equipment and a indoor facility. Who wants it? $5.00 shipping

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295139

Dec 02, 2004, 07:22 PM	#78
Petefoss Registered User Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Oxford, Michigan, United States Posts: 544	I built a Pogo from Hippo's 5 mm white foam about the same size as Ed's. Learned an important lesson on the first flight. Servo tape sticks great to the silver paint that I painted the foam with. However, the silver paint doesn't stick very well to the foam. My elvon servos came loose in flight so I had a rather abrupt landing. Looks repairable enough to learn some flight characteristics on before I build another one. Attached Thumbnails 57.0 KB · Views: 630

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May 14, 2004, 07:25 PM	#76
Alfredo Rubio Moderador Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: guadalajara, jalisco, mexico Posts: 6,436	Very nice pics, looks grat in hover !!!!!! the spiner complete very nice the nose lines. Cheers Alfredo Rubio

May 15, 2004, 12:17 AM	#77
Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Jochen, the C/G is around 30 percent. Most of what I do is by guess and by gosh and 40 plus years experience. Electric is sweet in that I can be conservative and start nose heavy and work my way back to the fine point just before things gets unmanageble tail heavy where the aircraft will begin to hover so that I can control it more or less. It works for me. Don't know how you will be doing your plans but I took a 1/2 page 3 view of the Pogo to Kinkos and had them blow it up to 300 percent. Took that home and inked in the lines and also added the enlarged controls surfaces. Figured out a basic wing area and roughly calculated the overall weight of the components. Figured how much I needed to enlarge the plans to meet those parameters I was looking in size and wingloading and went back to Kinkos for the final cut. Went to the machines that produced 11/17 copies for a nickel or so and broke the plan down to tiles making several copies of each section of the plan. Went back to shop and cut out the various parts from the copies of the plan to use as templates for the parts thusly never cutting up the original. The various trips back to Kinkos still cost me less than ten bucks to do and I still have all my templates plus the original plans to work from. Takes very little time to do and the airframe outline is exactly scale. Again its all just for fun. ed

Mar 08, 2005, 11:41 AM	#79
ggunners Bit-Twiddler and Flyer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 1,054	Just completed a Flying Model Simulator (FMS) version of the Lockheed Salmon XFV-1. Download it from My Website. -- ggunners

Mar 08, 2005, 03:33 PM	#80
landru Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,056	ggunners, Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get your model to work (FMS v2.0 beta 7 on W2K). What am I doing wrong? Andrew

Mar 08, 2005, 03:51 PM	#81
gbarc Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Jackson, Michigan, United States Posts: 1,386	Download the newest FMS alpha 8. Works Great!!! But damn that pogo is a bear to fly!! Greg

Mar 08, 2005, 05:19 PM	#82
ggunners Bit-Twiddler and Flyer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 1,054	Please try FMS 2 alpha 8. It will work with both version 2.7 and 2.8 models. -- ggunners

Mar 08, 2005, 06:11 PM	#83
landru Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,056	Hmmm. FMS 2 alpha 8.5 just won't run on my w2k box. I just tried the install three times. Couldn't find an help in the FMS FAQ. Any hints? Andrew

Mar 08, 2005, 07:04 PM	#84
ggunners Bit-Twiddler and Flyer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 1,054	landru, Many folks are running on W2K. I've got 2 machines with it. FMS 2.8 does require at least one COM port active so if you have them all disabled in your ROM BIOS, enable one. Without further details on your setup, I'm at a loss to suggest something else. There are known problems with some laptop graphics chips. Also known problems with high-end ATI cards unless you have the latest drivers. Let us know some more details, maybe we can help. -- ggunners

Mar 08, 2005, 07:11 PM	#85
landru Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,056	Thanks for those suggestions, ggunners. I'll have another go at it when I have a little more time tomorrow. Cheers, Andrew

Mar 08, 2005, 07:15 PM	#86
dougmontgomery plane1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glendale,Az. Posts: 2,437	Well This isn't an indoor but it is out of FFF and could be made one, Thought you guys might like the video displayed by intermision this was my Pogo XFY-1 if you haven't already seen it, Post#77, Doug Montgomery http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...4&page=6&pp=15

Mar 08, 2005, 07:23 PM	#87
dougmontgomery plane1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glendale,Az. Posts: 2,437	Lockheed XFV-1 And If you were interested in another of my unfinished projects, this would be great indoors with a cd rom or a feigao/ips gearbox. I started and ended this project due to lack of power equipment and a indoor facility. Who wants it? $5.00 shipping http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295139