Convair XFY-1 (Pogo) - Page 5

Eljimb0 · Jan 27, 2004, 08:16 PM

Run for your life!

Eljimb0 · Jan 27, 2004, 08:26 PM

Much better looking!

Ed Couch · Jan 27, 2004, 08:28 PM

Here is site for the Lockheed variant of the VTOL aircraft. As to the name I ain't going there cause I already screwed that one up.

http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/flying/lockheed_xfv.htm

ed

jeffs555 · Jan 27, 2004, 10:07 PM

Ed,
I know what you mean about those senior moments. I remember seeing the Convair XFV-1 somewhere in the late fifties early sixties. For some reason I had it stuck in my mind that it was at Wright-Patterson, but from searching the internet, it was probably Norfolk NAS. I know my father took me both places among others when I was young.

Eljimb0,
You seem to be right about the Lockheed XFV-1 not having an official nickname and the pilot being named Salmon. If you search the web, there are a lot of sites that do call the plane the Salmon.

Jeff

slowbatics · Feb 11, 2004, 09:35 AM

HELLO ED,
Any further testing on the Pogo? I tried the very same thing last year but kinda lost interest after a few crashes. Problem was the cg was very sensitive. My Pogo was Coroplast and powered by an OS46. At one point it would fly well but be hard to transition into hovr to land. After moving the cg I found thet it would hover but not fly worth a darn. Hope you are having better luck. I wish you luck.

slowbatics · Feb 11, 2004, 09:40 AM

Search- Pogoplast- on RCU

ronin8451 · Feb 11, 2004, 09:58 AM

Have you thought of using another servo on a slider switch with a moving battery tray so you can change CG "on-the-fly" ?

Ed Couch · Feb 11, 2004, 01:46 PM

Flight wise, the Pogo takes off and lands quite well considering. Very stable with no real vices. As stated before, I'm not one that cares very much for hovering 3D maneuvers, as a result my landing attempts have often failed to put me down vertically but Mike (FreeWilley) from Weatherford had absolutly no problem holding a consistant hover and vertical landing every time he flew it. The takeoffs are "a thing of beauty and a joy to behold" if I may quote an old friend. Just apply power and push over to heading at about five feet. Aircraft flies slightly nose high and handles just fine. It was never designed to loop and roll much indoors but it does what needs to be for show and tell. It works and is quite stable although Mike prefers a lighter handling aircraft he does quite well with the Pogo. I'm working on getting better but once I've proved the bird I tend to want to do something else. Built the Poggy Bait to help me hover and have no problems with it although it is more sensitive to control input than the Pogo. All in all this has been a great little success story and I'm tickled the dang thing did what I wanted it to do. ed

ronin8451 · Feb 11, 2004, 01:58 PM

That is all that matters. Ed. As long as it does what you want you completed your goal! I get a kick out of seeing you fly your works of art around.

Mikey does like his 3-D planes !

Looking forward to seeing your next creation!

Rick

Ed Couch · Apr 26, 2004, 09:32 AM

Pogo up, photos taken a couple of weeks ago. Things works if you are good enough. I working on it but the landings are a bitch.

Ed Couch · Apr 26, 2004, 09:35 AM

Files to big, downsized a little.

ed

jochen · May 14, 2004, 10:12 AM

Hello,

i´m starting to build this Vtol right now. Could you tell me where the COG should be?

Thanks
jochen

Ed Couch · May 14, 2004, 12:28 PM

Jochen, you know I really don't know right now but it seems I started about 25 percent back from intakes on Pogo. I'm at work now so it will be this evening before I can get you an answer, its balanced toward the far aft limit which assists in maintaining a stable hover. See if I can get back with you this evening if I don't have a senior moment and forget. ed

jochen · May 14, 2004, 01:06 PM

Hi Ed,

thanks for you fast reply! How thick is the material for the wings?
I would be very great, if you could post a video of this plane.

Greetings
Jochen

Ed Couch · May 14, 2004, 01:43 PM

Foam is the same old blue foam everyone seems to be using by Dow. It is referred to as "Fan Fold" and is about .250 inch thick. It works quite well but is not my normal media to work with, prefer balsa but went with blue foam to save time as the initial percentage of success was very low. I thinking seriously of starting the second bird and working drawings up for publication. Maybe one of the magazines would be interested in the subject. It has proven itself out for sure. Time will tell. ed

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Eljimb0 Huh ¿ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hawaii.. Posts: 2,437	convair Pogo Run for your life! Attached Thumbnails 55.8 KB · Views: 788

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Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Pogo up, photos taken a couple of weeks ago. Things works if you are good enough. I working on it but the landings are a bitch. Attached Thumbnails 78.1 KB · Views: 596 80.5 KB · Views: 557 Last edited by Ed Couch; Apr 26, 2004 at 09:37 AM.

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Jan 27, 2004, 08:28 PM	#63
Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Here is site for the Lockheed variant of the VTOL aircraft. As to the name I ain't going there cause I already screwed that one up. http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/flying/lockheed_xfv.htm ed

Jan 27, 2004, 10:07 PM	#64
jeffs555 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Raleigh,NC Posts: 1,982	Ed, I know what you mean about those senior moments. I remember seeing the Convair XFV-1 somewhere in the late fifties early sixties. For some reason I had it stuck in my mind that it was at Wright-Patterson, but from searching the internet, it was probably Norfolk NAS. I know my father took me both places among others when I was young. Eljimb0, You seem to be right about the Lockheed XFV-1 not having an official nickname and the pilot being named Salmon. If you search the web, there are a lot of sites that do call the plane the Salmon. Jeff

Feb 11, 2004, 09:35 AM	#65
slowbatics Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 12	HELLO ED, Any further testing on the Pogo? I tried the very same thing last year but kinda lost interest after a few crashes. Problem was the cg was very sensitive. My Pogo was Coroplast and powered by an OS46. At one point it would fly well but be hard to transition into hovr to land. After moving the cg I found thet it would hover but not fly worth a darn. Hope you are having better luck. I wish you luck.

Feb 11, 2004, 09:40 AM	#66
slowbatics Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 12	Search- Pogoplast- on RCU

Feb 11, 2004, 09:58 AM	#67
ronin8451 E-Flight Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Weatherford, Tx. Posts: 1,227	Have you thought of using another servo on a slider switch with a moving battery tray so you can change CG "on-the-fly" ?

Feb 11, 2004, 01:46 PM	#68
Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Flight wise, the Pogo takes off and lands quite well considering. Very stable with no real vices. As stated before, I'm not one that cares very much for hovering 3D maneuvers, as a result my landing attempts have often failed to put me down vertically but Mike (FreeWilley) from Weatherford had absolutly no problem holding a consistant hover and vertical landing every time he flew it. The takeoffs are "a thing of beauty and a joy to behold" if I may quote an old friend. Just apply power and push over to heading at about five feet. Aircraft flies slightly nose high and handles just fine. It was never designed to loop and roll much indoors but it does what needs to be for show and tell. It works and is quite stable although Mike prefers a lighter handling aircraft he does quite well with the Pogo. I'm working on getting better but once I've proved the bird I tend to want to do something else. Built the Poggy Bait to help me hover and have no problems with it although it is more sensitive to control input than the Pogo. All in all this has been a great little success story and I'm tickled the dang thing did what I wanted it to do. ed

Feb 11, 2004, 01:58 PM	#69
ronin8451 E-Flight Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Weatherford, Tx. Posts: 1,227	That is all that matters. Ed. As long as it does what you want you completed your goal! I get a kick out of seeing you fly your works of art around. Mikey does like his 3-D planes ! Looking forward to seeing your next creation! Rick

May 14, 2004, 10:12 AM	#72
jochen Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 15	Hello, i´m starting to build this Vtol right now. Could you tell me where the COG should be? Thanks jochen

May 14, 2004, 12:28 PM	#73
Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Jochen, you know I really don't know right now but it seems I started about 25 percent back from intakes on Pogo. I'm at work now so it will be this evening before I can get you an answer, its balanced toward the far aft limit which assists in maintaining a stable hover. See if I can get back with you this evening if I don't have a senior moment and forget. ed

May 14, 2004, 01:06 PM	#74
jochen Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 15	Hi Ed, thanks for you fast reply! How thick is the material for the wings? I would be very great, if you could post a video of this plane. Greetings Jochen

May 14, 2004, 01:43 PM	#75
Ed Couch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Richland Hills, Texas USA Posts: 1,495	Foam is the same old blue foam everyone seems to be using by Dow. It is referred to as "Fan Fold" and is about .250 inch thick. It works quite well but is not my normal media to work with, prefer balsa but went with blue foam to save time as the initial percentage of success was very low. I thinking seriously of starting the second bird and working drawings up for publication. Maybe one of the magazines would be interested in the subject. It has proven itself out for sure. Time will tell. ed