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Old Jan 26, 2004, 05:17 PM   #46
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its not the one im thinking of
i do have some three veiws sorta.( trying to edit to right size for post)
the one im thinking of was in a recent movie (that i didn't see) the movie was uh a frankie munez movie.
also i've seen a few of your planes in magazines and online and was wanting to know how you build such inventive planes?
whenever i have a good idea i can never afford to finish it.
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 05:18 PM   #47
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 05:20 PM   #48
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back veiw.
also remember this is purely a conceptual design it has never been tested at all to my knowledge.
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 05:23 PM   #49
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one more (i love this one )
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 07:16 PM   #50
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Derk, got to admit thats one unusual concept hog for sure. Wonder what the power supply would have been. Sure doesn't look like convential turbine power cause there ain't no room for the fuel tanks for any real duration ala the flying belts of time past, but the mind is a wonderful thing. Neat for sure!
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 07:27 PM   #51
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well its too bad that its not my idea but yeah i think it was a special power plant they planned to use they said it was supposed to weigh 250 lbs dry so it'd have to be a light engine.
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Old Jan 26, 2004, 11:03 PM   #52
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here's the one i was talking about.its pretty cool
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 12:08 PM   #53
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I was a big fan of the pogo stick when I was a kid. I have been following this thread for a while. It seems sufficiently off topic at this point to post this picture my band used as a promo shot. It is the lockeed one. What a great looking plane.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 01:55 PM   #54
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Neat picture of the Lockheed Salamander as it was called. One of the interesting things about the test bird is that it never made a VTOL landing and takeoff due to the difference of the engines which were to have been the same as on the Pogo. Something to do with the oiling system but she always flew with the conventional landing gear from the first flight until the end of the test program. It could substain vertical and transitioned from horizontal to vertical a number of times but never took off or landed in the proposed configuration. As you know, the Pogo had no option and all flights were from the vertical takeoff/landing setup. It would be a neat airframe to do and I've worked for the company for over 23 years, just may have to do it up right and see what happens. ed
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 02:04 PM   #55
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Ed, Since you worked for Lockheed would you have access to a good 3 view? Searched the web but Google did not find what I was interested in.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 04:30 PM   #56
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Bob H, Here you go........Pogo / Salamander Three View courtesey of Eduardo's Three Views .

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Old Jan 27, 2004, 05:17 PM   #57
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Now I know the name of the Lockheed VTOL plane, I knew the Pogo was the delta plane, but both planes was build in the same time.

Nice pics of the fantastic .... bike????? looks lijke an small vesion of the Pegasus, the Harrier power plant

Well maybe in the future we or our childs will see this vehicles in the air, because the Pegasus produce very much noice and ....... well the man can give solution to any problem.

PLEASE....!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORE POGO PIC...........YES??????????
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Everything I have read, says the Lockheed XFV-1 was called the Salmon. The only Salamander I know of is the German He-162. The link to the 3-view drawing says Pogo, but appears to be the XFV-1 Salmon. The delta winged Convair XFY-1 was called the Pogo. Here is a link to a Smithsonian site that has low res videos of the Pogo taking off, landing, and also transitioning from forward to vertical. http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/A...goLanding.html

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Old Jan 27, 2004, 07:34 PM   #59
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Jeff you be right on the Salmon instead of Salamander, senior moment please excuse. ed

Trying to get new thread up on new bird called "Poggy Bait". Something sweet to practice on. Having trouble with things working right, be back in little while.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 08:09 PM   #60
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The Lockeed XFV1.. was flown by a test pilot named Herman Salmon, nicknamed "fish" That is the pilot not the plane. Kelly Johnson felt the whole thing was a bad idea. I don't think the Lockeed version of the plane had a nick- name... So usually they are both refered to as Pogo sticks. A very popular toy in the early 50's.
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