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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:33 PM
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I have replaced mine with 30 lb braided fishing line. My buddy Brad has replaced his original line with 2 carbon rods. Seems to work well.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the input. The two carbon rods is not a silly idea. Guess he uses a guide such as a drinking straw half way down the length?
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 08:28 PM
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Thanks for the input. The two carbon rods is not a silly idea. Guess he uses a guide such as a drinking straw half way down the length?
No need for guides. Its push pull. Works like a charm. My knife edges are so much more crisp than Gravity Cheats.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 05:37 AM
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No need for guides. Its push pull. Works like a charm. My knife edges are so much more crisp than Gravity Cheats.
That's true! Brads kinfe edges are very crispy crisp. But for some reason, His Sbach, will only knife edge at high altiutdes, where as mine is able to do them on the deck. Must be something in the foam maybe he can work on that next time we are out.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:19 PM
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No need for guides. Its push pull. Works like a charm. My knife edges are so much more crisp than Gravity Cheats.
What size carbon rods are you running? Thanks!
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:00 PM
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What size carbon rods are you running? Thanks!
I think 2 mm
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:01 PM
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That's true! Brads kinfe edges are very crispy crisp. But for some reason, His Sbach, will only knife edge at high altiutdes, where as mine is able to do them on the deck. Must be something in the foam maybe he can work on that next time we are out.
Yeah. Only difference is I don't have to walk 100 feet to pick mine up.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:01 PM
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Thanks! Probably a worthwile upgrade, just to keep it reliable.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 09:56 PM
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It is summer here, and I've got some time, and the weather has cooperated just recently, so I've had a chance to put a whole bunch of packs through this plane.

It is very slippery, making it fast, and I still cannot get over the precision feel and the overall feel of the plane in response down low and up high.

People, this is a seriously good model!
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 03:27 AM
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People, this is a seriously good model!
How would you say it compares to the Telink Yak-55?
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 03:50 AM
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Good question. I think the Yak is slower, even on the same motor, but the Yak is smaller, and makes a really nice throw around, do it all flyer. It is 'easier' to fly in the sense of being smaller. So it has a pretty 'safe' feel to it, and you can just chuck it in the car, chuck it up, and get flying.

Now the Sbach, once you put that in the air, it gets high fast, and the moves are just that much smoother, being larger, and the design just makes it a joy to fly tight moves, then drop it down for some rollers then up again and into a vertical, then KE spins, blenders, all just come with ease and look so good. You can pull out of these moves at the last minute and not even think about it. It is well designed for sure. Just make sure your rudder cable is nice a taught before each flying session, to ensure you have precise rudder.

I'd miss the Yak if I didn't have it, but I'd also miss the sbach, but if I was to choose, I'd probably pick the Sbach, purely due to it's impressive size and showmanship in front of an audience!! That is why I am after the Telink 48" as I think it will compliment the Sbach perfectly in this regard.

The yak is something you can fly forever, and never get sick of and you would use to train up to larger models, and use to fly a few packs before taking up the sbach. For me, the route was Telink 38"-44", at least a year of these, then upto the 48"ers. I think if I didn't have the Telinks to train on (and, in my case, Leadfeather yaks - as the CY didn't exist then) then flying the Sbach may have proved more challenging

I also will add the inverted/harrier flight characteristics of the plane are qutie astounding in my opinion.

Hope that helps.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 04:04 AM
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How would you say it compares to the Telink Yak-55?
I would say uptime4downtime has it about right, the Telink Yak is a model that you always want to have handy.
I find the undercarriage a bit low on the SBach and it spreads too much on landing, wheres the Telink undercarriages are a lot more durable.

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Old Jan 24, 2013, 06:21 AM
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[QUOTE=Mike Smart;23912698]I would say uptime4downtime has it about right, the Telink Yak is a model that you always want to have handy.
I find the undercarriage a bit low on the SBach and it spreads too much on landing, wheres the Telink undercarriages are a lot more durable.

Mike[/QUOTE

By Under carriage I assume you mean the landing gear. We have a modification we do to our landing gears which keeps them from spreading. We install a piece of line ( I use braided fishing line but any line that won’t stretch to much, would work) and install it from axel nut to axel nut. You could also drill a hole in the gear a little higher up on the gear. This would work better for taxing on grass runways. This mod keeps the gear from spreading on landing, especially those hard landings (which I seem to like to do). This mod has saved a lot of props.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 06:22 AM
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That definitely helps. I'm rapidly running out of storage space and want to make the right next purchase.

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I'd probably pick the Sbach, purely due to it's impressive size and showmanship in front of an audience!!
I want to get comfortable flying something that doesn't look out of place down the flying field. It sounds like the Sbach fits the bill.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 06:54 AM
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I would say uptime4downtime has it about right, the Telink Yak is a model that you always want to have handy.
I find the undercarriage a bit low on the SBach and it spreads too much on landing, wheres the Telink undercarriages are a lot more durable.

Mike[/QUOTE

By Under carriage I assume you mean the landing gear. We have a modification we do to our landing gears which keeps them from spreading. We install a piece of line ( I use braided fishing line but any line that won’t stretch to much, would work) and install it from axel nut to axel nut. You could also drill a hole in the gear a little higher up on the gear. This would work better for taxing on grass runways. This mod keeps the gear from spreading on landing, especially those hard landings (which I seem to like to do). This mod has saved a lot of props.
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Hi Shawn,

Yes landing gear in the US
Thanks, I may give that a try.

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