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Old Aug 10, 2012, 12:02 AM
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How old are you? Do you have a simulator? I went from a parkzone ultra micro t-28 to a 3dhs 48" epp extra. I am 15, the young are usally better learning new things. Also there is a such thing as daul rates, you can make a plane fly like a normal plane.

If you are young and have a simulator go ahead and buy any 3dhs plane, there are build video's for most of the planes, there will be a build video for this plane soon.

Don't dodge a plane just because it will be more difficult to build than another plane, I had alot of questions during my first two ARF builds and there is plenty of people around to help. Also do not think that the bigger plane you get the harder it will be to fly, bigger fly's better and is actually easyer to fly. All 3D 3dhs planes fly crazy 3D, but you can tone those planes down with dual rates and have no problem flying them like a normal plane.

But if your looking for noob friendly from flying style, alot of people have said 3dhs 47" extra 300 SHP is a great plane for learning 3D, that is the plane I learned to do rollers on. Noob friendly for crashes, I would say any of the 3dhs full fuse epp planes. Noob friendly for building the plane, do not let a little more difficult build drive you away. There is build video's and plenty of help on these threads.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 12:11 AM
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batteries

ok, so here is my list of batteries that I wrote down that should all fit into this plane and work. I sorted them by mah size....hope this helps you all.

sky lipo 1300mah 30c, 71x34x22, 114g, $9.70
sky lipo 1300mah 40c, 71x35x24, 122g, $17.49
Gforce 1300mah 30c, 71x34x20, 123g, $10.99
Gforce 1300mah 40c elite, 66x35x22, 128g, $13.99
Glacier 1300mah 30c, 71x23x35, 115g, $12.20
Thunderpower 1300mah 45c, 98x31x18, 109g, $35
Genesis 1300mah 40c, 66x35x24, 113g, $14
Gens Ace 1300mah 25c, 71x34x25, 122g, $12

Gforce 1500mah 30c, 102x34x16, 129g, $11.99
Genesis 1500mah 40c, 86x35x21, 130g, $17
Gens Ace 1550mah 25c, 92x29x25, 144g, $13.96

Hyperion 1600mah 25c, 88x33x20, 128g, $27
Hyperion 1600mah 35c, 89x34x21, 134g, $35
Hyperion 1600mah 45c, 89x33x22, 139g, $40
Sky Lipo 1600mah 40c, 104x34x20, 144g, $13.10
Genesis 1600mah 40c, 86x35x21, 130g, $17

Gens Ace 1800mah 25c, 89x30x25, 143g, $15.99
Thunderpower 1800mah 45c, 98x31x25, 155g, $35


So there you go. Lets see which battery turns out to be the best!

I did not include HK batteries in my list. so some of those may be good too.

the sky lipo weight was not accurate on their website. it was actually lighter according to my gram scale so I posted what my gram scale shows.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 12:58 AM
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How old are you? Do you have a simulator? I went from a parkzone ultra micro t-28 to a 3dhs 48" epp extra. I am 15, the young are usally better learning new things. Also there is a such thing as daul rates, you can make a plane fly like a normal plane.

If you are young and have a simulator go ahead and buy any 3dhs plane, there are build video's for most of the planes, there will be a build video for this plane soon.

Don't dodge a plane just because it will be more difficult to build than another plane, I had alot of questions during my first two ARF builds and there is plenty of people around to help. Also do not think that the bigger plane you get the harder it will be to fly, bigger fly's better and is actually easyer to fly. All 3D 3dhs planes fly crazy 3D, but you can tone those planes down with dual rates and have no problem flying them like a normal plane.

But if your looking for noob friendly from flying style, alot of people have said 3dhs 47" extra 300 SHP is a great plane for learning 3D, that is the plane I learned to do rollers on. Noob friendly for crashes, I would say any of the 3dhs full fuse epp planes. Noob friendly for building the plane, do not let a little more difficult build drive you away. There is build video's and plenty of help on these threads.
Well, I'm 17, and yes I do have a sim, realflight G5. From what you said, it looks like flying and building won't be a problem at all. I've practiced quite a bit on the sim, and have flown my profile 3D planes to bits.

Mainly now it's just the flying space I'm concerned about... I don't have a flying field very close, the closest one is about 20 miles away. I've flown all my planes so far right in my backyard, which conveniently is a slope and a nice-sized valley. It's great for my parkzone P-51 BL, and a 56" sailplane too. But anything with landing gear would be trouble, because it's all rough dirt and weeds. This is why I've never got into full-fuse 3D planes or any big scale planes. It would have to have bush wheels to land

I guess I'll have to find a suitable grass park that's big enough. The close-by ones are too small...
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 01:13 AM
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Why don't you mow a landing strip out? Go on YouTube and look up stoneddoggie, I have video of my rip 42" slick and a video of my rip 47" shp, lol. But look at the weeds and that was just all recentanly cut down in those video's, I cut my own runway, also if your mower is able to drop it's deck or just get a shorter cut then that is great, I always cut my runway as short as possible.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 01:22 AM
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thanks!

park aviator. that is so weird that mine seem to fit just fine, getting them in and out and both you and sd are having a hard time getting them back out again. I wonder what is different about mine.

I just messed up and added thin CA to the leading edge of the elevator and it totally ate the middle section of foam up and now there is a big hollowed out area in the front middle part of the elevator. it doesnt bother the other parts of foam, just that middle piece. I guess that is why they dont tell you to put CA there.

so, what should I do? squirt some welders glue down into that hole? I am about half done building this thing.
Yeah, that was surprising... In the video, yours looked to go in and out very smooth. Mine take a lot of pulling.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 01:39 AM
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Why don't you mow a landing strip out?
I have thought about doing that for a while. I would have to level part of the slope first though... could work!
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 03:05 AM
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Am I gonna have to put bigger wheels if I wanna fly it at my club which always has the grass runway cut short?
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 06:35 AM
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really? no one cares about the battery list? guess i wasted my time on that one.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 06:53 AM
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really? no one cares about the battery list? guess i wasted my time on that one.
Well if makes you feel better, Thanks for the list.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 07:24 AM
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Am I gonna have to put bigger wheels if I wanna fly it at my club which always has the grass runway cut short?
I plan on just leaving the wheel pants off and seeing how it goes.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 07:56 AM
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Am I gonna have to put bigger wheels if I wanna fly it at my club which always has the grass runway cut short?
Um I don't know, you will have to try, I would just order bigger wheels just in case.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 08:18 AM
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The TP 1300mah 45c is the lightest of all the batteries and has the highest c rating. Bet it would be great. But have to pay up for it.

I think i will give the gforce elite series 1300mah 40c a shot for the price.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Welders will not fill the gap when its dry. I'd glue something in there. A chunk of foam, a little wad of paper towel, just about anything soft and squishy.

Solars are out of the ailerons. HS65HBs going in. While they have performed great in my Sbach, I really didnt consider the speed and power of that 2810 motor when I put those into the wings. Leaving the tail Solars alone. They are doing great back there.
What about gorilla glue that foams up? Never used this kind of foam before. Just ran into someone at the lhs that just bought this plane too. Not many electric flyers around here so that was surprising.
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 08:55 AM
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really? no one cares about the battery list? guess i wasted my time on that one.
Nice list, but I just ordered a pair of Nanotech 1300 45C yesterday. If/what I order next will depend on flight time and CG with those. I wanted to try the Glacier 1300 but still out of stock.

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What about gorilla glue that foams up? Never used this kind of foam before. Just ran into someone at the lhs that just bought this plane too. Not many electric flyers around here so that was surprising.
Yep I would try a very little bit of the white quick drying gorilla glue. The dries white not the wood glue.
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