I was wondering how you were going to make those bad boys. Now that I see them, it's so obvious! Nice job, they look awesome!

Lookin good there John! That book looks like it will be really interesting! w.

He all ways drops a hint of what he is going to build next!!! Can some ont translate German (Hans) and see what its going to be? I know, I know- With the last name of Dunkelberger, you would think I would be able to but I need help on this one.

Very nice work J He said something about another gunship awhile back but I can't remember witch one?

Bruce

Thanks guys, this is the fun part but pretty tedious. Started the Minguns this morning, they are smaller and harder than the Gatlings!

You don't miss anything, do you Daryl?
Actually those are printed sheets off the net with info on the Gatling and Minguns. Must have been a German site.
And no big secret on the next build. Hans had sent me plans a couple of years ago for an A-7 Corsair II. It was 1/12th scale but I decided on 1/8th. So he just sent me new plans in the 1/8th scale. What a guy! And it will be in the Pusher Jet Forum, no damned EDF for this guy.
But there is another gunship on my list a little down the road.

Got to read about 15 pages in the new book while waiting in the dentist office today. Wow, what a great book and great pics too.
Little excerpt: The Air Force gave Fairchild the contract to convert the 119 to a gunship, both G & K models. They did the Gs first and the AF had specified a minimum climb rate on one engine of 200ft/min in case one lost an engine on takeoff. After converting them they found that the climb rate on one engine was a NEGATIVE! Had to take them back in for lightening, more expense and the AF almost cancelled the Gunship II project over it. Can you imagine knowing that if you lost an engine on takeoff it was a sure thing you were going down? I would suspect it would be hard to keep morale up.

J

Are those the same plans from Hans that Woody built his A-7 from a few years ago? Larger scale though. Woody's was an awesome build. I have some pictures of it at SEFF somewhere around here from a few years back. I can't wait to see in 1/8th scale. I promise I won't even mention EDF when you start the build thread.

You can mention EDF all you want Jeremy, won't make any difference.
I do think those might be the same plans as Woody's, he may pop in here and say. His build was a real looker!!

J

What is your reason for not wanting any EDFs?

What is your reason for not wanting any EDFs?

The same reasons he doesn't do retracts and gear doors. Too much fuss.

Oh wait, John does do retracts and gear doors now.

Sorry John, just couldn't resist.

Dan Eaton

Originally Posted by eatond

The same reasons he doesn't do retracts and gear doors. Too much fuss.

Oh wait, John does do retracts and gear doors now.

Dan Eaton

I can verify that!!!

Herman,
Nothing against the EDF guys at all. Just more power needed, heavier batts = more weight, yada,yada,yada.

Dan, Daryl,
Yep, retracts and doors. Guess that makes me a little bit of a hypocrite doesn't it.
But in all fairness, you should be here and hear the language as I'm working on them. Russian sailors have nothing on me.

Finishing up the miniguns and Gatling guns now. Pics a little later.

J

Originally Posted by J Morgan

Thanks guys

EDF? Let's see, bigger batts, more weight, less efficient than a pusher...... in your dreams.
J

I'm sure there are other reasons

Originally Posted by J Morgan

Nothing against the EDF guys at all. Just more power needed, heavier batts = more weight, yada,yada,yada.

Something else to add is that extra work around installing them, and making them maintainable. with props, the motor is right there and easy to get to. With EDF, you need to take things apart. I mention this out of my own personal experiences. I do love the sound of the EDF's, but I'm hoping I never have to do maintenance...

If they all had the sound of Andy's 1/4 scale T-38, then maybe it would be worth it.

Here are the guns, almost done, They need a little weathering yet but you get the idea. They are just laying in there, not mounted yet. Have to relieve the mount on one bulkhead to mount the last one, hence the empty window. There are wind deflectors that go in front of the minguns and little scoops over the top of them too.
I think I will go to the flare launcher, AVQ-8 searchlight, and night observation sight (NOS) since they go in the open doorways. Lots to do to the fuse and I haven't even started on the middle section yet.

J

Originally Posted by J Morgan

Herman,
Dan, Daryl,
Yep, retracts and doors. Guess that makes me a little bit of a hypocrite doesn't it.

J

I can't say anything about that. It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle...... Awesome as usual.