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Joined May 2012
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Very, very bad crash.
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well you didnt exactly grease that landing!
What happened? Radio issues? OR was it downwind? thats what it looked like :* |
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Not sure how it could have been coming in too fast when it obviously stalled from about 3 feet up and slammed down breaking off the gear and nose. I am pretty sure he was way too slow or coming in with a tail wind, or both. Bigger planes look like they are going slower than they really are usually and look like they are landing at a walking pace but they are really going 10-15 mph.
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IMO it just looked like the pilot was behind it the entire time, and the rates were too mushy (not enough) to correct for it. Plane went up, he pushed down, plane when down, he tried to pull up and BAM! Dead plane.
--Tom K. |
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United States, MA
Joined Jul 2012
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That video looks very much like the "landing" I had with my little park zone extra 300 that tore the gear out.
The cause in my case was at least: - a little more airplane than the pilot (me) was quite ready for. - a slightly tail heavy CG - too much expo on too low rates. Took me a while to realize that last one - what was happening is I'd move the stick, not much would happen, I'd get nervous and move it more, and too much would happen. And so on with attempting to correct that. There may have been other factors I'm unaware of. I'm doing better with less expo and the CG shifted forward a bit. One thing I'm wondering about - how can you tell the difference between a stall, and an over correction by the pilot from watching the video? - Ken |
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Cromer,Norfolk, UK
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Hmm could be, I thought it was a stall but its hard to tell exactly. Looks kind of like my first attempts at landing my Pete n Poke before I added expo to the controls
Luckily my hard landing only slightly cracked the plywood side of the plane where the landing gear mount attaches to the inside of the fuse.
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Definitely not a stall. I have seen that exact thing while instructing in full scale. you are coming in to land get hit with a small gust or just pitch up too fast and the plane balloons. The common, yet wrong, action is to release back pressure and the plane dives back down too quick to react to. The correct action is to maintain the stick position and even add a little throttle if it seems a little slow. This will slow the descent and allow you to stabilize the approach. The instant you relax that back pressure it will dive, when you maintain the pressure it will still start to drop the nose and start a rapid descent but it will be a more controlled descent and you will still have some airspeed to play with. If you are too near your stall speed you have to either go around or use throttle, not the elevator, to slow your descent.
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