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Thanks Sparky,
actually the guy with the total station is returning tomorrow to finish the drawings so our efforts were not neccessary. I am aware that there are various photogametry and survey based programs that can be used with aerial photos to get excellent results, but those programs are beyond the budget of the current excavation. In our photo we used a 1 meter scale and I was able to size the photo to match the scale of the drawing. we also had several mesurments that we made of specific rocks so we had secure spatial references. However using photoshop to tilt/warp/flex/ bow or whatever else is needed to make the photo match the spatial references and previous drawing is a bit beyond my knowledge base. I'd love to take a class down the road that would teach me how to do technical survey drawing from aerial photos. Thanks for the help. I plan to learn more on this subject down the road. |
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Cumbria in the U.K
Joined Jan 2008
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Hi bat,
Good luck with the project. I can't do anything but basic stuff with photos. I use the free software programme the GIMP which was originally developed for Linux but now is available for Windows. The photos I took were for professional archaeologists and they had access to the universities and the software. I seem to have raised quite a bit of interest here and have had some very nice comments on my results. I do the aerial photos for no charge apart from my fuel costs. That way there are no complications and I am my own boss ! Being retired helps as I have the time and enjoy doing it. The professionals survey the sites, do the drawings and then leave a couple of base pegs in. I then turn up when the weather is suitable and have the site to myself. Most of the sites are in stunning scenery so I get to fly, have a picnic with my wife and do something useful at the same time. |
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USA, CA, Santa Clarita
Joined Jul 2005
464 Posts
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Bat,
This may or may not help you at this time but you may be interested in checking out DXOptics Pro. The software automatically corrects lens distortion and it also lets you force horizontal and vertical lines. I'm not sure if this will help you at this time but it does come in handy. Mike |
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Norfolk, UK
Joined Nov 2009
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Have a look at Kite Aerial Photography
Hi Bat,
This is also being discussed in the KAP forums, where there are some awesomely knowledgeable folk chipping in. The biggest forum is http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/discuss/ which may be of interest. Hope this helps. Regards Andy |
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I see at least three distinct potential problems using AP for mapping things:
- Distortions created by the focal of the lens - Distortions created by paralax and misalignement - Distortions created for not having perfectly vertical views Any of these distortions can be corrected with Photoshop as long as you prealably disposed a physical grid (let say IDEALLY a visible rope network with 1m square divisions) on top of your aimed subject. Once you got a well known quadrangular object on your initial photo documents it will be much easier to tile and allign your final picture and to correct it with the proper Photoshop tools. (And yes, there are more than one in Photoshop )
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Cumbria in the U.K
Joined Jan 2008
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Most people doing AP don't need that sort of accuracy.
For those who do then specialist software has been developed. For archaeological purposes the site would first have been mapped out by hand. A grid system would be used for recording everything while working from a known baseline. Aerial photos would be a bonus to the archaeologists and they already have the means of correcting them and they also have the accurate drawings to compare against. Aerial photos can also include a large area around a site and show how the site "sits" in relation to it's surroundings and other areas of interest. The photos are a nice addition to have but the important dimensions and placement have already been done and accurately drawn. |
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