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Old Jul 06, 2012, 10:23 PM
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newbie needs help with plane selection

Hey everyone its my first post.
I'm a newbie to this hobby.
I have been doing my home work and I know the basics of what you need from basic controls to fpv wiring.
I need help trying to select my plane I have never flown before but will get a teacher.
I eventuly want to get into fpv so it must be fpv capable.
I don't want to go with the easy star.
I want to get a kit and build it my self.
And my budget is 200 dollars Max.
I want to buy from sites that have https like bevrc and hobby partz
No hobby king because they have no https

I was thinking about getting the x5 flying wing

Here http://www.bevrc.com/x5-flying-wing_p255.html

Or the Sirius rc plane

Here http://www.bevrc.com/sirius-the-best...ters_p281.html

I really like the x5 wing but I found out from some work that it gets only 12 min of flight on a single 5000mah battery
So I'm considering the more effective Sirius plane.
Is this flight time true. ?
Is other a way to get the flight time up to at lest 25-35 mins of flight

If not is there another flying wing that's for fpv that's cheap.

Please help me
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 03:16 AM
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Hey everyone its my first post.
I'm a newbie to this hobby.
I have been doing my home work and I know the basics of what you need from basic controls to fpv wiring.
I need help trying to select my plane I have never flown before but will get a teacher.
I eventuly want to get into fpv so it must be fpv capable.
I don't want to go with the easy star.
I want to get a kit and build it my self.
And my budget is 200 dollars Max.
I want to buy from sites that have https like bevrc and hobby partz
No hobby king because they have no https

I was thinking about getting the x5 flying wing

Here http://www.bevrc.com/x5-flying-wing_p255.html

Or the Sirius rc plane

Here http://www.bevrc.com/sirius-the-best...ters_p281.html

I really like the x5 wing but I found out from some work that it gets only 12 min of flight on a single 5000mah battery
So I'm considering the more effective Sirius plane.
Is this flight time true. ?
Is other a way to get the flight time up to at lest 25-35 mins of flight

If not is there another flying wing that's for fpv that's cheap.

Please help me
If you've never flown before it's best to start with a plane that is self-righting . This one is , and it will also be able to do FPV when the time comes .

http://crashtesthobby.com/products/storm-chaser-pod
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 03:23 AM
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Agreed. Also, the sirius looks like an EasyStar clone. The StormChaser does look like a good choice.
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 09:24 AM
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You can't do much better than an EasyGlider or Radian for a trainer that is also good for FPV. The nice thing about the Radian for a beginner is that it's all ready to go, assembly is easy.

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc-planes-p...radian-rtf.htm
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 09:34 AM
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Yeah. Radian is good. But for FPV the prop can sometimes get in the way.
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 05:09 PM
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Thanks guys but yea the storm chaser seems good but a little out of the budget.:-(
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 05:15 PM
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And wait how could I get the good flight time on the x5 wing.
I mean I just saw a forum that a person said this can fly really slow and stable.
He said he got a nice 25min and still had some juice left in the battery
Which would be a good flight time for me
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 06:54 PM
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I don't think a wing will be a good first plane. Get the Storm Chaser. Or get an Albatross.
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 09:10 PM
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Thanks guys but yea the storm chaser seems good but a little out of the budget.:-(
You said your budget is $200 .The storm chaser is $100 , that leaves $100 for electronics - seems doable .

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00kv_560w.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...C_4A_UBEC.html

http://www.hobbypartz.com/79p-ct6b-r6b-radiosystem.html

http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html

http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-sl1800-3s1p-30c-3333.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...40v_Input.html
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 02:32 AM
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More than specific planes to look at, you may want to look at it from some criteria perspective, and then look for a plan that matches these criteria.

Some old guide published here
http://plawner.net/1/new_in_hobby.html

For for the 1st plane selection:
http://plawner.net/3/1st_plane/1st_plane.html

The EasyStar II seems quite nice these days...

Good luck!
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 09:55 AM
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My trainer was the flyzone Sensei. Great plane to learn on, but you can put several upgrades on it, and is has empty space where you could put a FPV camera.
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 10:10 AM
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And, assuming it works in the first place, it should give you three or four flights before something breaks. If you can go with quality, then you should. The bargain basement is for those of us who know what to look for and are willing to take the risk. For someone on a low budget, they can't afford to take that risk. Beginners need the least CHANCE of frustration, and cheaper parts increase the chance of that. Not saying you will have problems for sure, but can you take the risk? If one of those cheapo parts fails, will you be grounded for a month while you save up money for a new one?
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 01:40 PM
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And, assuming it works in the first place, it should give you three or four flights before something breaks. If you can go with quality, then you should. The bargain basement is for those of us who know what to look for and are willing to take the risk. For someone on a low budget, they can't afford to take that risk. Beginners need the least CHANCE of frustration, and cheaper parts increase the chance of that. Not saying you will have problems for sure, but can you take the risk? If one of those cheapo parts fails, will you be grounded for a month while you save up money for a new one?
Inexpensive doesn't necessarily mean cheap . I've been getting planes/parts from Hobby King and Hobbypartz for the last two years , and they work great .
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Also, that parts list is crap. Don't even bother looking at it - that guy has no idea what he's doing - or he has some weird roundabout plan. He recommends 40g giant-scale and robot servos for a 72" RET. I do see that CrashTest recommends that servo, but only at the end of a long list of 13g ones. A 13 gram servo is what you need. He also a 1300mAh battery - but the charger he linked can only charge .5A. That means a 3 hour charge time. With a proper charger, you can have a 30 minute charge time.

For a beginner, not looking for the best, but still wants reliability, I'd suggest Altitude hobbies. Same-day shipping, great products, great support. 50% above hobbyking prices, but a wide range of motors and servos, and flat rate $4 shipping to CONUS.

For a charger, I'd recommend a genuine IMAX b6-AC. Great chargers.

And I've never seen a bad sky lipo come out of HobbyPartz - they seem to be good batteries, somewhere between Turnigy and Hyperion.
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Old Jul 08, 2012, 03:32 PM
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Inexpensive doesn't necessarily mean cheap . I've been getting planes/parts from Hobby King and Hobbypartz for the last two years , and they work great .
Yes I know that. Someone always has to say that. Still, it does not change the fact that when I go out to the field, I see that the people who use the bargain basement parts have more problems overall. A guy yesterday totally lost a race because he was using zippy batteries... and they were "fine" too, until he needed to depend on them. Someone will always defend Hobbyking whenever it's brought up, and certainly that stuff has a place and I use some of it myself, but it IS lower quality and anyone who says different is wrong.
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