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Holly Springs, NC
Joined Sep 2002
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Find yourself a 5/16" balsa stick and insert it into the tube for increased strength. I bent the #$%@ out of my SS fuelage my first time out, others have had the same experience.
Whatever you do, don't maiden when there is any hint of a breeze. It will make your maiden much more difficult. Buy some extra props and take them with you when you go fly. I would buy 2 or 3 extra props. I've found you can bust'em up and then glue'em back together with CA and epoxy. Have fun!!!!!
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Is it built yet? :)
Some tidbits fresh from my fist SS build, or any build.
(that's known as a 'dis-claimer') ![]() Throw away the GWS glue tube, ...or save it for projects that don't go in the air. (Use foam friendly thick CA, and 5/30 min. epoxy, it cost a bit, you'll use it ALL up before your 'hobby' gets very far along...like repairs!) Don't use GWS 'clear tape' strips that are on the 'decal sheet'. (use quality clear packing tape) Don't cut your tail, ignore that part. (page 7) (save the black plastic part though, especially since you probably won't do the 5/16" square balsa fuse mod mentioned later.) ![]() Spend time to reinforce your wing WELL. Install the wing support rods in place, and 'tack' with the CA a few spots to hold in place. Come back with the epoxy, use it liberally, be as neat as you can but don't worry 'bout it. Wrap it all up with the clear tape. (Doing this properly will determine the life of your wing) When you slide on the black 'servo brackets', orient them so that the little bitty holes you can barely see, are facing each other to mount your HS-55's. (at least my HS-81MG's were like that) DO the 5/16" square balsa down the fuse rod as suggested in prev. post. It cost like .79 cents LHS. As you slide it in, coat it with epoxy. This can/will save you a lot of heartache. MANY SS's are destroyed with a bent fuse stick. (Maybe later SS builds you will feel you can do without it.) On the bottom-side of your wing, on the first full 'rib' from center, mark a short line at 4 1/8" parallel w/ the wing LE. This will be your CG point, you will refer to it VERY often at the end of your build, and forever thereafter. (If you have a 'hot-melt' glue gun, put a tiny 'dot' there so you can just feel it.) Use BOTH double-sided tape and CA/epoxy to mount your tail-feathers to the fuse stick. Use the screw and white reinforcement piece also after that. Don't glue your grey motor/GB housing on the front end of the fuse stick. AT LEAST until you are completely through with the build, and I wouldn't do it then. Use a very small screw from the side. If your using that 1,100 mAh batt, ignore GWS estimates for where your front wing mount bracket should be. Start it around 6 1/2" from the front of the fuse stick. Everything will be moved/adjusted as you end the build, and seek your proper CG. (the 4 1/8" mark) Now that I've got you completely confused, confounded, bewildered, undecided, and generally ready to throw in the towel...let these guys that know what they're doing help you get it all straight! ![]() GOODLUCK! bubba ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ P.S. Here's a REAL good tip for you! On this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122951 ...post #'s 162-170 have clear, close-up, detailed photos of a completed Slow Stick by the man himself...Boomerace.
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Re: Is it built yet? :)
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thank you all for the comments. last night i gave it some throttle with a battery hooked up and it started taking off but i grabbed it. done that twice and now i'm working without the engine on it ![]() everything is reversed - UP on the stick makes the ELEVATOR go DOWN etc... how can i change this? the balsa won't add too much weight? that sounds like a good idea. maybe i'll buy it today im gonna get some packing tape or maybe red "zagi" covering tape from my LHS, is this any good? i need to reinforce quite a bit as the clear tape provided in the kit needs some backup. i put one of the big wing decals on the back of my geo metro hatchback so i've only got one for the wing more to come.. EDIT: i haven't got to the CG part since i've just now got it mounted i haven't figured how to mount the battery yet. the instructions show the RECIEVER on top right under the wing. my HFS-04MG reciever is too big for that so it's stuck under. the battery might fit on top but it would be easier to change at the field under. how do most people do it? rubber bands? velcro? EDIT2: i just got back from my LHS and am about to put this 5/16" piece of wood in. it's perfect sized, just about 6" longer than the aluminum. should i also put 2 little screws (from the SS kit) in the wood for support? and should i used the GWS glue? i also got a roll of 2" filament packing tape and red zagi covering tape (is this stuff strong?) i was going to cover a bunch of the foam next. any specific way should i go about this? thanks! |
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Willie:
To reverse servo direction, I believe you must remove the back cover first. You should find a few removable plugs and channel dials. Rotate the appropriate dials (ch1 and 2) 180deg and the servos should reverse. I use velcro and/or tape to hold the battery pack to the fuse. Those velcro strap thingies Bubba is using look pretty neat, though! daveWCO |
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Re: Re: Is it built yet? :)
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Just pretty much use the clear tape where they show, and add other as you go along repairing. I guess you could reinforce the tail surfaces going in if you wanted. Wing tips also maybe. Goodluck, don't hesitate to get first hand help from your Hobby Shop. bubba |
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**everything is reversed - UP on the stick makes the ELEVATOR go DOWN etc... how can i change this?**
**Sounds about right to me? What am I missing here? You're saying you push up on the stick, the elevator goes down. That would be right.** Dang, I missed that! Good eye, Bubba. Dave |
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i covered the edges with packing tape. all the way around and 4 lines of filament tape around the wing and one in the middle. then i covered all that with the red (which is a perfect match). i also covered the entire underside so it's red and it looks awesome! maybe i can get some pictures of everything tomarrow
im looking at the inside of my transmitter and i see 2 orange knobs that turn 180 degrees, but one is at 90 and the other is at 45 degrees and adjusting them makes it stop responding to input there are 5 metal 'cubes' with circles in the top that look like they could be adjusted with a flat-head.. i dont wanna mess with them though im just about 100% ready for it's maiden flight except the reversed servos and my center of gravity - [b]how do i do this? do i balance on the aluminum OR on the underside of the wing? what did you use to adhere the plastic atatchments for the servo wire? does that make sense? mine seem a little wobbly Quote:
oops, i stated it wrong *i think*heh, i just checked it again to make sure. when i push FORWARD on the STICK, it brings the ELEVATOR UP and would make the plane go UP.. don't you guys use "pull back on the stick to climb" ? |
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Willie:
Ok. Now your elevator servo is backwards! Yeah, it's down on the stick to make the plane rise (down stick = up elevator). Right rudder = move stick to right, when observing from the rear of the plane. I read the Neon servo reverse directions on the Hitec website. Maybe you have a different Neon model? Any Neon owners out there? For determing CG, use the wing. I used 6 minute epoxy to glue the control horns to the control surfaces (on both sides of the control horns). I'm sure foam safe CA would work just fine, as well. Dave |
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i just checked the hitec website and am now reading through the appropriate part of the PDF manual that i did not get with my transmitter
![]() thanks. im gonna get going on the center of gravity next and it'll be ready to take to the sky! EDIT: servos correct and 100% operational. the rudder seems a little weak though (only turning about 15-20 degrees in each direction). |
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Cool! If you want more throw on the rudder, move the control rod end to a control horn hole closer to the rudder (move it inward). And/or, move the servo end of the control rod to the outer end of the servo arm. That should give you plenty of rudder throw! Personally, I like max throws on the Slow Stick. Of course, others might think it's a bad idea, esp. on the first flight.... Be gentle on the sticks if you increase the throws! Keep us posted! Dave |
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See if your wire is flexing. See if your wire is in the furtherest outside holes on the servo arm and innermost on the rudder control horn. Compare servo arm movement, see if both move the same amount. Make sure where your control horn is mounted into the rudder doesn't have any 'play' in it. When you balance the plane at the 4 1/8" mark under the wing, err in the 'nose heavy' direction. Do not err in the 'tail-heavy' direction. Once you get it air-borne into the wind, go straight ahead until you get it up in the air a bit, then start learning how well it will turn. Just turning the motor off, it should float like a puff of cotton, falling slowly and gracefully. Goodluck, let us know how it goes, and if you have any further questions. bubba |
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