One of the reasons I'm not going with ailerons right away is Dave Robelen's experience with ailerons on his P-Nut. He tried two wings with ailerons, and several wings with dihedral and no ailerons. He could not get the aileron wings to work well, and he's a master builder/designer. Keeping the speed up for an aileron only plane is not what I have in mind for an indoor plane. Ailerons if used will be for feeding in reverse aileron with hard rudder when doing flat turns, etc. I want it to fly slow, but be able to do some fun maneuvers. Think of this as an attempt to build a sort of micro T3D, except with lower wing loading. Last month I flew my Quick Junior with huge extensions on the control surfaces to test that, and it worked well. So, now on to this plane.
So for now it will be with non-aileron wings. Also, I want to try and keep performance close to that of my Quick Junior (15g). The aileron wing will go with full house control so I can try flat turns, etc. But, it will add at least 2.5g to the weight. Until I know if I can get the pager thrust above 14.5g it won't have the 0.9 thrust/weight ratio that the Quick Junior has.
I actually started a fuselage made from built up sheet foam (1mm wire cut blue foam sheet as wall foam is not available in the US), and found it was going to weigh more than this one. And, I wanted to make the fuselage a quick build or re-build after crashes. I made (or partially made) a total of five fuselages before finally deciding this was a reasonable alternative, especially while sorting the plane out. This will be my first low-wing plane, and it also has a lot of control surfaces. I'll probably crash it a lot, hence simple fuselage, equipment on the outside, etc. I'm keeping it simple. Actually, painting is what took the longest. Down the road I'll make a more scale looking plane with what I learn from this one, and sweat the finish details. This one is painted as I can't abide "natural" planes.
I'm learning about a plane like this as I go. First was the Quick Junior, then this plane, and finally something more scale looking (maybe).
Buzzsaw, no offense taken.
Anyway, it should be a fun plane, but won't be ready in time for tonight's indoor session.
Gordon