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Old Jun 07, 2012, 11:09 AM
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6/6/2012 - RFJ (aka Billy Whizz) has successfully test flown his Veron Phoenix. Come on guys, at the rate he builds he will have finished another before the rest of us get to fly ours!
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Old Jun 07, 2012, 04:28 PM
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Time to bump this thread to, hopefully, elicit some more support

Most clubs these days seem to be infested with ARTFs and foamies and fliers with little knowledge or interest in anything else so it's always good to share ones appreciation of these models and the building skills involved with like minded people, ie. real aeromodellers, even if they are "virtual"

So why not join in the fun.

Ray
Thinking is a legitimate part of the creative process, Ray! I'll admit that if anything can get me attempting to arrange badly cut pieces of balsa into a shape roughly resembling a model aircraft, it's this thread. It's been 15 years, several house moves and one child since I last built a balsa model (a Carl Goldberg Gentle Lady); one has no building board, very little time, and my 'shop' would be a corner of a very full loft. But I have assembled a couple of foamies there (so shoot me), which have got me in the air. But even I will say that assembling ain't not the same as building.

But I have dug out some plans, and a part-built Gypsy. I'm ruminating. Whatever it will be will be a sloooowwwww build. It will also be electric and RC. It would more than likely be a KeilKraft model, because as a young lad they were almost exclusively the models I made.

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I remember happily carving away at the cowling of a Skleada Auster C/L and suddenly wondering why it was turning red, having neatly carved most of the end off my left index finger without feeling a thing. My father, who was impervious to pain and had a very phlegmatic approach to injuries, took one look, fetched the iodine bottle, sploshed some on, replaced the loose finger end and bandaged it up. Amazingly two days later it had all knitted back together, although to this day I have a distinctive line around that finger end as a reminder of the first of many modelling cuts and abrasions.
One of my first memories of aeromodelling was when I was given a KeilKraft Ajax as a Christmas present. I must have been about eleven, and Father was to make it 'with my assistance' (come to think of it, I wonder who the present was really for). Boxing day, and time to start. Anyone remember Joy-Plane balsa cement, with the nozzle stopper that you cut off and then plugged with a pin? Father (normally a very safety conscious chap) cut it off, holding a Stanley knife in all four fingers, blade facing him, pulling the blade toward his thumb which was applying counterpressure on the other side of the nozzle. Click! - pause - blood - Father cursing and running to the sink spraying blood and balsa cement across the kitchen lino...... Building curtailed until the stitches came out.

Funnily enough, I still have that very plan; much yellowed and in front of me now.....
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 01:19 AM
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Funnily enough, I still have that very plan; much yellowed and in front of me now.....
Colonel, very interesting and familiar (and current) for many of us I'm sure...
BUT, have a good look at that plan, I think it's trying to tell you something...
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 02:07 AM
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Colonel, very interesting and familiar (and current) for many of us I'm sure...
BUT, have a good look at that plan, I think it's trying to tell you something...
Yes, I can hear it from over here, it's saying...."build me, build me, BUILD ME".......
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 03:33 AM
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Yes, I can hear it from over here, it's saying...."build me, build me, BUILD ME".......
YEAH! Come on everyone, COLONEL! COLONEL! COLONEL!....etc.
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 05:21 AM
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Well, what I can say is that currently I am researching the viability of possibly beginning a KK Ajax.....

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Old Jun 08, 2012, 06:43 AM
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Well, what I can say is that currently I am researching the viability of possibly beginning a KK Ajax.....

That's what we like to hear....commitment!
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 06:54 AM
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Colonel, I'll reprieve you from the firing squad as I have to admit to having a couple of foamies myself. They have their uses

My very first electric model was a Goldberg Electra, basically a Gentle Lady. Horrible, sluggish thing under power ( little brushed motor and a heavy pack of nicads) but a great glider.

Looking forward to your imminent Ajax build thread

Ray
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 08:26 AM
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Well, what I can say is that currently I am researching the viability of possibly beginning a KK Ajax.....

There you are Colonel, didn't hurt a bit! No firing squad here for having a foamie or RTF or two, as Ray says they have their uses. I've had a couple of shock fliers, a GWS Zero, a Donutz Aito biplane, an Alliance aerobat, a Mirage 2000, a Simprop Taube and a pair of Simply the Best E400 carbon and kevlar ARTFs (still got those, they are GREAT). And my indoor SE5A is made of foam, although that one was all my own work.

Hopefully your viability researches will result in a build log which we can all enjoy.
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 09:09 AM
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Sounds like that's a yes then - I'll have a stab at an Ajax. Target completion date by 31st December 2012.
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 10:29 AM
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OK Colonel, good for you, I'll write you into the list in post #1 before you get the chance to change your mind!

What's it going to be - F/F rubber, F/F electric or electric R/C?
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Old Jun 08, 2012, 11:10 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 06:15 AM
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My time for hunting up a plan is being taken up by long hours at work as its A/C seson here and I have a ton of cars to service.I haven't built a low wing for a while,could any body point me to some thing low winged and sporty looking?I thought that veron had a low winged bird that looked kind of like an old pattern plane.Thanks for any help scottie.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 06:25 AM
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Well the Keil Kraft Fleetwing designed by Dave Platt certainly fits that description. Plans available from Colin Smith in two sizes - 54" & 72" Original kit was the smaller version. First produced in 1968.

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Old Jun 15, 2012, 06:42 AM
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