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Old May 21, 2012, 08:45 PM
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I still got the fuse.
This weeken BW run. I plant to be there friday night with my trailer.
If you come up saturday doing some flying and pick the fuse. The shipping cost at least paid for the fuel.
Let me know. I can ship the fuse tomorrow Fed-Ex.
Deal, I'll drive to Button Willow saturday, pick up the fuse and do some flyin with you!
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Old May 21, 2012, 09:01 PM
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The Hobby Lobby F/A 18 has a much, much lower wing loading, so the flight characteristics will be very different, and the tail or accelerated stall will not show up. Just like the Parkzone Habu vs. the Habu 32. Same airframe and similar size, but very different wing load. The PZ Habu will not do an accelerated stall, and cannot snap unlike the Habu 32.
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Old May 21, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Deal, I'll drive to Button Willow saturday, pick up the fuse and do some flyin with you!
We will had fun. Bring any of your friends too.
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:15 PM
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For all those that can't fly this jet...
There's always the foamy section...
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:26 PM
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true or start with the habu32 and then maybe buy the F4

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For all those that can't fly this jet...
There's always the foamy section...
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:31 PM
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For all those that can't fly this jet...
There's always the foamy section...
lol! You really had to go there! Seen your vids and you did nothing but circles. Not hard to do.
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:33 PM
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At least I'm still flying it

Looks like you won't be...

Not only that , I've seen videos here of people who couldn't complete one turn.

Guess you'll never know in the closet
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:34 PM
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so what do you guys think some are doing wrong?
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Just got it today! But will b a slow build if I decide to keep it. Since I don't have all the electronics.
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:46 PM
Ginger or MaryAnn ??
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Sounds like they are flying this like a prop plane, not an EDF.
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Well v8truckin , I hope you post a video of your maiden.
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:51 PM
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so what do you guys think some are doing wrong?

cg and throws are critical as well as a good understanding of what you can and cannot do with an F4 phantom, the tricky part is getting gobs and gobs of power (like the real ones have) without adding a ton of weight. not an easy thing to do. I think if you keep it stock and lite most guys will have success, for the guys who want to hop it up it wont be as easy as most models would be. if you can hop it up without adding weight you will have a winner. this jet needs more power but not more weight
my .02
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:52 PM
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maybe some rudder mixed with alierons so a more shallow turn could be made????

I know that you are an experienced jet driver, so with all due respect, adding rudder input in the direction of the turn is not a good idea. Especially at high AOAs. The rudder is the last control surface to lose effectiveness and will make the situation worse at the worst time. The rudder will bring the nose down and result in a downward flight vector. This is true for most planes but, with jets the higher speeds make this more of an issue. I know that there are differences in model aircraft and full scale, but aerodynamically, not a lot. I am not trying to be braggadocious in any way but, I fly jets for a living and we are taught that use of coordinated rudder with ailerons is to eliminate yaw not to supplement or induce roll. When flying jets we spend a lot of time with feet on the floor so to speak (air to air manuevering at safe altitudes in very high performance aircraft aside). In T-38s in the pattern with the associated high AOAs use of the rudder would very quickly roll the plane on it's back. I think that we are better off limiting the bank angle and planning for the turn radius untill we get more comfortable with the plane. All the input here is very good and helpful. And I am at least as guilty of dumb thumbs as anyone. Just ask Steve. Sorry for almost hitting you when I lost orientation with my P-51!

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Old May 21, 2012, 11:01 PM
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cg and throws are critical as well as a good understanding of what you can and cannot do with an F4 phantom, the tricky part is getting gobs and gobs of power (like the real ones have) without adding a ton of weight. not an easy thing to do. I think if you keep it stock and lite most guys will have success, for the guys who want to hop it up it wont be as easy as most models would be. if you can hop it up without adding weight you will have a winner. this jet needs more power but not more weight
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Adding more power and not adding weight.
I know one guy pretty good at that. LOL.
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Old May 21, 2012, 11:07 PM
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so what do you guys think some are doing wrong?
The answer had been posted.
You got to fly like the Phantom.
No yank on the stick on turn....
Give little nose high before bank.
Take off kept the plane on the ground as long it can to built up speed and let it rotate by itself. Not force off the ground unless you had good power to compensate the stall.

Is not hard plane to fly if you goes through the check list what to do and what not to do.
I got 11 success fun flying and plus the early 3 flight learn to set up the plane rigjht. Don't forget I log in 1/5 of the flight on my maiden....that doesn't count.
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