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Old Apr 20, 2012, 11:29 AM
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I can already see it "OMG Shopped".... no question this will be one of the tactics adopted.

That and it will see very little exposure in the news cycle. Just doesent fit the narrative.
Given the digital data and GPS on the phone verify when and where this picture was taken that will make disputing it very difficult.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Pffffft since when do facts enter the equation?
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Given the digital data and GPS on the phone verify when and where this picture was taken that will make disputing it very difficult.
Yup, if there is an encrypted watermark, that's good proof.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
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Looks like Martin may have given his attacker quite a fight before finally succumbing to the fatal gunshot.

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I should mention here, I'm not clear what determining who was on top shows anyway. No one (as far as I know) saw the struggle begin. Determining who had the upper hand at a particular point in the struggle seems to be of limited value in determining the genesis of the conflict.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:02 PM
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I've witnessed and experienced head 'wounds' and there's a lot more blood than that if it's a serious cut - black blood too, not the pink stuff!

Those don't look more than a scratch
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Wait, that's it? That's the "head injury?" That's a scratch. If he'd actually had his "head SLAMMED repeatedly into concrete" like he claims they would have taken him to the ER. Head injuries are no joke, and they're taken very seriously by EMTs. This doesn't even come close to Zimmerman's original story. But then again we already know Z's team is filled with liars.

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His lawyer, Craig Sonner, has claimed Zimmerman suffered a gash on the back of his head that would have required stitches, though he says Zimmerman did not receive treatment until it had already begun to heal. And leaks to the Orlando Sentinel have suggested that Zimmerman's nose was broken.

Zimmerman supporter Joe Oliver, who worked with him at a mortgage security firm, has said Zimmerman stated that Trayvon punched him in the face, breaking his nose, then, when he fell to the ground, began bashing his head into the sidewalk, before Zimmerman shot the teen, Oliver says, in self-defense.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Looks like Martin may have given his attacker quite a fight before finally succumbing to the fatal gunshot.



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Do you have any proof that Zimmerman was the attacker? Do you have anything that disputes Zimmerman's story? The witnesses and photos seem to support Zimmerman. I have yet to see anything that disputes his claims. What is your evidence he was the attacker?
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Wait, that's it? That's the "head injury?" That's a scratch. If he'd actually had his "head SLAMMED repeatedly into concrete" like he claims they would have taken him to the ER. Head injuries are no joke, and they're taken very seriously by EMTs. This doesn't even come close to Zimmerman's original story. But then again we already know Z's team is filled with liars.

http://www.thegrio.com/specials/tray...ses-on-him.php
What was the lie? His neighbors supported his claims and said his face was swollen and bruised the next day.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:21 PM
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What was the lie? His neighbors supported his claims and said his face was swollen and bruised the next day.


Can you imagine them doing or saying anything else ?
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:21 PM
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Do you have any proof that Zimmerman was the attacker? Do you have anything that disputes Zimmerman's story? The witnesses and photos seem to support Zimmerman. I have yet to see anything that disputes his claims. What is your evidence he was the attacker?
Besides the fact of Zimmerman's armed pursuit of Martin? Zimmerman's injuries are completely consistent with having met resistance from the kid he tracked-down.

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I should mention here, I'm not clear what determining who was on top shows anyway. No one (as far as I know) saw the struggle begin. Determining who had the upper hand at a particular point in the struggle seems to be of limited value in determining the genesis of the conflict.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:25 PM
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Can you imagine them doing or saying anything else ?
Absolutely. Why would his neighbors lie for him in a murder case?
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Besides the fact of Zimmerman's armed pursuit of Martin? Zimmerman's injuries are completely consistent with having met resistance from the kid he tracked-down.


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So you have no proof and are simply making up something and trying to pass it along as fact. That really helps the story.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:28 PM
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Absolutely. Why would his neighbors lie for him in a murder case?
Why wouldn't they - friends etc - he was 'protecting their interests' as a wannabe cop patrol vigilante etc

I have no faith at all in the outcome of this shambles - from the neighbors to the police, there is so much smoke and mirrors that it's hard to know what's true and what's made up!
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:29 PM
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hmmm ... it would appear that many people have taken off their "lawyer" hats and are now putting on their "doctor" hats.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 12:30 PM
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hmmm ... it would appear that many people have taken off their "lawyer" hats and are now putting on their "doctor" hats.
That could be because Zimmermans plea seems 'not very likely' and Zimmermans injuries seem 'not very likely'
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