Originally Posted by nigelsheffield

I dont know if the pictures are a mock up or if this has actually been done.

http://www.infolaser.net/franpr/tecn...xrc/psxrc.html

Originally Posted by Rotozuk

Not sure what the "read" sensors they are using.. reed? But if they are using optical sensors, I think they are in for a world of hurt. I used to repair video games when I was going to school. Opto sensors were a common failure point on any game with a track ball. Often times they just needed cleaning, even the "sealed" versions had issues on a regular basis.

We have all been doing fine with the current stick "technology" and feel. I think we will be fine for a bit longer. LOL

-Wayne

Not optical, they are magnetic, based on Hall effect.
Simple than someone my think, a small magnet in the bottom of stick, moving near a $5 magnetic Hall sensor, as the ubiquitous 5883, known to all multicopter guys, which outputs 3-4000 steps resolution, easy to ready by any MCU via i2c. Nothing to wear in time, except bearings.

Originally Posted by nigelsheffield

I think fpv will be a big thing soon and there will be a one stop solution before long-ie one block that has rx, camera, video transmitter, 3axis gyro, head tracking, gps, autopilot, with return to home built in case of signal loss etc etc, and one the tx side the controls will have a video rx built in with along with an socket to plug in headset.
Now there's a challenge for frsky!

Originally Posted by Bruno van Hoek

Talking about sticks and 'feel'... What RC still lacks is force feedback.
Let's face it, you can't 'feel' the control surfaces the way you feel it in a 1:1 plane, even Control Line has it, albeit just the elevator (&flaps).
All you feel are the neutralizer springs in the gimbals.
I'd love to have this same 'closed loop' control precision I have on my F2B models available on my RC ones....

If it finds funding and ever gets mass-produced, this would offer both. Hope it does.
http://www.os-rc.com/

osrc sounds like the way to go, really hope something comes of it and wish the best of luck.

Originally Posted by nigelsheffield

osrc sounds like the way to go, really hope something comes of it and wish the best of luck.

Sorry, don't know why you think OSRC vaporware is magic - there are honest to goodness open source options NOW - download the source and change to your hearts' content.

Scott

Yeah, but none of them have actuated sticks, integrated FPV equipment, mapping capabilities and a real multipoint RF...

P.T Barnum will be proud of him

Open source but you can't see it, for a system that doesn't exist [yet] and if you don't pledge enough money he'll roll up his carpet and close shop. Or perhaps say he's good to go, rake in the pledges, and go....to parts unknown.

If he is honest and a part of me hopes that he is, he's doing this in a bad way. The good thing about it is that he's raised the bar for all the rest of the manufacturers.


Richard

Would have thought that there would be another way for him to get funds but I suppose he knows what he's doing!!??!?!?
My thoughts are that someone else will pinch his ideas and and end up with the big boys making something like this instead leaving him out in the cold.
I have considered manufacturing something from ideas I have had in the past but never did it cause the cost is too much and once you show it can be done someone will do it cheaper and you get nothing for your trouble, patents are just ignored and then cost you more to take them to court.

It's shame cause lots of people have lots of good ideas but never do anything about them for this reason.

You and I both, Nigel. Genious is not just in the idea but bringing it to reality. Fear is just one hurtle.

FrSky has pledged their nickel so perhaps the X16D may have more than a passing resemblance.

Richard

Originally Posted by nigelsheffield

Would have thought that there would be another way for him to get funds but I suppose he knows what he's doing!!??!?!?
My thoughts are that someone else will pinch his ideas and and end up with the big boys making something like this instead leaving him out in the cold.
I have considered manufacturing something from ideas I have had in the past but never did it cause the cost is too much and once you show it can be done someone will do it cheaper and you get nothing for your trouble, patents are just ignored and then cost you more to take them to court.

It's shame cause lots of people have lots of good ideas but never do anything about them for this reason.

Seize the moment!
If your idea is viable , by showing you actually put it to use FIRST- goes a long way to retaining it .
Patents ?
Unless you have $$$$$$ behind you - forget it - just do it
There are patent layers who will bleed you dry and provide no protections .
You are NOT protected by a patent
YOU have to also protect that patent - diligently
Been there

Will somebody wake me when there is news on the X16D. Until then...
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Wake up Scot it's here, it works great does everything and more and only cost $25.50!!!
OH sorry I must have fallen asleep and started dreaming lol!

Feature request for FrSky:

Can you please endow these radios - at least the 12 and the 16 - with the facility to replace the stock stick springs with ones offering much greater resistance.

It's become something of a trend among 3D and aerobatic pilots. Stiffer springs make unintentional input less likely, and they provide more "separation" between the two channels sharing the same stick.

Even if it's necessary to buy the stiff springs separately, or from a third-party, that's OK as long as the gimbals are designed to be capable of dealing with significantly greater tension.

Ta.

Originally Posted by H2SO4

Feature request for FrSky:

Can you please endow these radios - at least the 12 and the 16 - with the facility to replace the stock stick springs with ones offering much greater resistance.

It's become something of a trend among 3D and aerobatic pilots. Stiffer springs make unintentional input less likely, and they provide more "separation" between the two channels sharing the same stick.

Even if it's necessary to buy the stiff springs separately, or from a third-party, that's OK as long as the gimbals are designed to be capable of dealing with significantly greater tension.

Ta.

That's the first modification I make to a Flysky 9x after upgrading the firmware to ER9x. I replace the stock springs with Futaba stiff springs. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXAEM7&P=ML