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Old Apr 16, 2012, 12:34 PM
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kp bikes or tt sb5 pro

which is faster for racing, kp bikes or tt sb5 pro?
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Old Apr 16, 2012, 08:14 PM
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neither are faster than the other for racing. both are very good bikes...if your in the united states though i would recommend the SB-5 because parts are availible and easy to find..Its what most ppl are running now and it is a very capable bike plus cheap to repair and hop-up etc...I do like the new KP but for me its more of an exotic bike for the seasoned veteran.
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Old Apr 17, 2012, 05:27 AM
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Personally I would go for a KP over the SB5, I'm not convinced that there is much difference in the ultimate performance of each design but I would say that the KP is a much easier bike to drive on the limit. I have owned an SB5 for a short while but I found it to be very unstable in the corners when you push it hard on a track, any disturbance such as touching the curb on the apex of a corner with the scratchbar would frequently result in a crash. Most people who have raced the SB5 here in the UK quite quickly switched to a KP for the same reason that I gave up on it.
I understand that alot of these problems can be solved by replacing some of the suspension components to reduce the excessive flex but after doing all of this it will end up costing a fair bit more then the new KP which just needs a bit a ballast on the front end to make it handle better.
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Old Apr 17, 2012, 07:58 PM
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I can say the same thing about my NF509, its really stable in turns and can easily drift and cut up as such where as the SB-5 is timid and not as much confidence to really push harder than you have to. I think most of it has to do with the SB-5 being ultra light weight and un-balanced (which can be ratified) compared to the 509R or KP bikes. I do believe the SB-5 can and will get there, we are comparing a $275 bike to a couple of $700-$800 bikes equipped so there is your difference .Pound for pound SB-5 because it just keeps going unless you hit a solid object. If you got the money and you know how to drive a bike well, get the KP., I'm sure it will not disappoint you. I'm really looking forward to hear what people have to say about the KP12. Very interesting set up on that new bike and i like it. I hope there are no belt issues with it
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 04:18 PM
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Off topic...just wanted to say to Matt, that I have some pics of your bike as background on my computer desktop, and Im not even a street guy!
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
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Out of curiosity which generation of the bike is it?
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Old Apr 19, 2012, 12:31 AM
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Matt, I sent you a message so to avoid being off topic.
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Old Jun 20, 2012, 02:13 PM
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I DONT GET IT... The KP bike is soooooo expensive AND it does not come with front break, body, rider, tires/rims, drive system. rip off seems to me for the ttotal price no normal RC entheusiast can afford it. So "money " wins.
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Old Jun 20, 2012, 06:05 PM
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I DONT GET IT... The KP bike is soooooo expensive AND it does not come with front break, body, rider, tires/rims, drive system. rip off seems to me for the ttotal price no normal RC entheusiast can afford it. So "money " wins.
KP is not made in mass production like sb5 but rather small quantities by a small company who knows about race bikes. nice bike and the price is not that bad for what your getting. IMO the sb5 needs alloy wheels,tires and brake also putting it on the $500 range as a roller. Any top level bike is going to have atleast $1000-$1500 before its all over with.
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Old Jun 21, 2012, 08:58 AM
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I agree, I have well over 1000 in my SB5 as a working Roller. I dont believe i went to far into aftermarket stuff really. But if i had a chance to do it all again (509e Pro) What a nice bike. I love my SB5 dont get me wrong. If i was invited to the worlds for any reason, i would be seriously considering another bike for that event. I just cant beat the durability of my SB5, i have put it through test after test. I would be nervous to start over with such a nice bike and not know what the bike could take for a hit.
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Old Jun 22, 2012, 06:50 PM
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I agree, I have well over 1000 in my SB5 as a working Roller. I dont believe i went to far into aftermarket stuff really. But if i had a chance to do it all again (509e Pro) What a nice bike. I love my SB5 dont get me wrong. If i was invited to the worlds for any reason, i would be seriously considering another bike for that event. I just cant beat the durability of my SB5, i have put it through test after test. I would be nervous to start over with such a nice bike and not know what the bike could take for a hit.
You don't have to be invited Clay, we just need to go. personally I like the 509 but man it is nerve racking racing because it is such an expensive bike. I took mine out to a track last weekend and it did very well, no damage after a few hard licks other than the usual scratches. I slammed my sb5 many many times into the steel railing and of just kept going, no surprise there.
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 02:28 AM
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Think Marino shed some light on the price tag of a properly setup sb5. But you can read here. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1662774
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 02:32 AM
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I Think Marino shed some light on the price tag of a properly setup sb5 as compared to the more $$$$$$ bikes. But you can read here. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1662774
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 10:10 AM
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If i had the money to go... i think i would just move. Our Gov. is been making me trip a little lately lol.
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Old Jun 24, 2012, 03:32 PM
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Look at it this way until the engineering of the Sb5 came out all bikes where much slower around a track, wider and not as durable. Once the Sb5 came on the scene it changed the direction of designing rc bikes. All manufactures of bikes and individuals who design there own bikes are taking the engineering of the Sb5 and building from there. All the new bikes spawn from the geometry base of the Sb, they all look like the Sb. The new brake technology came from the Sb's simple design. You guys also are not taking into account the Sb was made from a stand point of being affordable and mass produced. The Sb5 in itself is historical in taking Rc bikes to a whole new level. Since the induction of the Sb5 All designs from that point are better because of it. Yes you have to do some things to the Sb for it to perform better, you have to do that with all bikes. Too bad the Rc Bike Industry is not like the 1:1 bike manufactures. Every year they look at each other's bikes performance and the next year they build a better bike to beat out the comp. Each year the bikes just keep getting better and better. I would pick the Sb and evolve with it Ed Winter have some good tips for it.
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