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Old Apr 08, 2012, 01:23 PM
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Damn Busters... the movie

I watched this little film the other night. It was quite interesting and well done for its time.

It is about the man whom invented the skipping bomb, skipped like a stone over water the struck the damn, rolled down the face of the dam in more or less 'intimate' contact then detonated.

It showed the mans trials and tribulations trying to convince the air wing that the darn thing would even work.

Lots of good footage of Lancaster bombers as a bonus.

One thing jumped out at me though and it was the name of their dog!

It was a black Labrador and they called him then N word at first I thought I was hearing things but they repeated the name over and over. Later in the film they just called him "good boy".

Anyhow it was an interesting insight to a unique bit of historical data.

You could never pull that off today. Not even in a historical sense.

Available on netflix
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Yup - 'Dambusters' is a famous film here... Barnes Wallis was the inventor.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 01:59 PM
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Good film.

People forget ideas on what is acceptable change, sometimes very quickly.

That word was an acceptable word within the living memory of people alive today, now, not really.

What was moral yesterday may not be tomorrow.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 02:00 PM
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It was fascinating to see his workshop re-created at RAF Hendon. The man was a genius!

Regarding the language, that's the way folks talked not that long ago. My dear Mother-in-Law was nice to everyone, but the terms she'd learned and used innocently in her childhood to describe folks of other races and nationalities are now considered insults. She was well-mannered enough to not use them, until dementia set in.

We had to commit her to an assisted living establishment, due to her physical and mental deterioration. In that place, she made many friends amongst the staff, include several black men and women. When Ma regressed to her childhood, her language did to. It was heart-breaking to hear Ma nonchalantly use the "N" word to describe those care-givers in the Alzheimer’s' ward and see the pain in their faces.

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Old Apr 08, 2012, 02:05 PM
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It's Dam Busters.BTW

The issue with Guy Gibson;s dog's name is one that comes up every holiday, when the fillum is invariably aired. Those who see PC gone mad around every corner get very het up if the name isnl't reproduced in full, even though it is completely irrelevant to the fillum's plot.

Yeah, I know that the dog's name was the codeword for a successful attack on the Mohne Dam, but ther are many inaccuracies in the fillum, for security reasons at the time, and one more doesn't make any difference to make the fillum more acceptable for modern TV audiences.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 03:19 PM
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I remember seeing that when I was knee high to a grasshopper.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 03:29 PM
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It's Dam Busters.BTW

The issue with Guy Gibson;s dog's name is one that comes up every holiday, when the fillum is invariably aired. Those who see PC gone mad around every corner get very het up if the name isnl't reproduced in full, even though it is completely irrelevant to the fillum's plot.

Yeah, I know that the dog's name was the codeword for a successful attack on the Mohne Dam, but ther are many inaccuracies in the fillum, for security reasons at the time, and one more doesn't make any difference to make the fillum more acceptable for modern TV audiences.
Heh I knew that but headlines grab readers

The film actually had the release disclaimer or whatever you call it certifying that it was fit for public consumption.

I did note that when they showed the actual test footage the bombs looked like giant golf balls, round. When you see them in the aircraft they have like two sides shaded off, flat on two sides round in the middle.

I also recall seeing footage of this kind of bombing done with what looked to be giant oil drums.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 03:33 PM
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The bouncing bomb used in the Ruhr Dam raids was actually cylindrical, not round like a golf ball. There were other versions intended to be used against the capital ships in dock, like the Tirpitz, carried by Mosquitoes and for various other tasks, under the umbrella of Operation Highball.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 04:21 PM
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Love the movie. I watch the DVD on occasion, when the mood strikes. Sorry, no CGI.

Seems like the remake is taking longer than expected. An article on the remake and their approach for Guy Gibson's dog: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...onic-film.html
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 04:32 PM
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Nova did two interesting documentaries this year on PBS, one is "Bombing Hitler's Damns" which is good, partly one of those where they attempt a modern recreation up in Canada, but by far the better one is "3D Spies of WWII" a don't miss, as they used the technology of the 3D surveillance by pattern flying over targets to accurately attack all sorts of targets, including the dams. A huge undertaking, difficult flying for the camera planes, Spitfires, what else? How they were specially equipped, much of the technology and photos only recently opened from being sealed.

Both are available online here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 04:42 PM
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This is the skinny on that Canadian half-scale reenactment done with a DC-4. Perhaps little known is that the bomb spun 'backward' from the direction of travel..
http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-05_dambusters.asp

Building the Bouncing Bomb - The final bit (4 min 30 sec)
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 04:59 PM
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I watched that documentary on the recreation in Canada and it seemed very strange that they adopted an approach of spinning the bomb up, before take off, only to have it slow down by the time they dropped the thing.

There is remarkable, real life footage included of IIRC a Liberator that lost her tail from the splashback of the bomb, during testing.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 05:33 PM
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Water can be very hard when your going that fast.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 05:56 PM
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When they showed the original movie on CBC-TV a year or two ago, the dog's name was changed to "Trigger" in the most obvious dubbed-in voice....
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