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Old Apr 08, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Can't Decide...Brushless and 2s or Brushed and 1s?

hello. I've been looking into getting myself another plane but i am not sure as to whether i should purchase a 2s brushless e-flite micro or 1s brushed parkzone micro. I have a couple of the parkzone planes. What i am looking at is the new spitfire mk vi from parkzone when it is released and the carbon cub ss from e-flite when it is released. So just in general, if you have flown both the brushed and brushless micros, which one would you choose and why?
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 07:28 PM
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hello. I've been looking into getting myself another plane but i am not sure as to whether i should purchase a 2s brushless e-flite micro or 1s brushed parkzone micro. I have a couple of the parkzone planes. What i am looking at is the new spitfire mk vi from parkzone when it is released and the carbon cub ss from e-flite when it is released. So just in general, if you have flown both the brushed and brushless micros, which one would you choose and why?
If you have a small flying area with a sketchy landing area, the 1S brushed are better. They have less kinetic energy and hit the ground/obstacles with a lot less force. And the batteries are cheap/easier to charge.

If you fly in an open area with a good runway, the 2S planes fly better and can tolerate more wind.

My flying field is a 130 foot circle ringed with trees/obstacles with a tiny, one way runway, so I prefer the 1S planes.
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Old Apr 08, 2012, 08:08 PM
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oh well thanks! i never thought of it in that way! i guess the 1s brushed are for me.
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 10:36 AM
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hello. I've been looking into getting myself another plane but i am not sure as to whether i should purchase a 2s brushless e-flite micro or 1s brushed parkzone micro. I have a couple of the parkzone planes. What i am looking at is the new spitfire mk vi from parkzone when it is released and the carbon cub ss from e-flite when it is released. So just in general, if you have flown both the brushed and brushless micros, which one would you choose and why?
I've flown the brushed Cub and P-51 and the brushless Stryker, Beast and Sbach. If you're looking for aerobatic performance the brushed ones don't compare at all to the brushless offerings. There is a huge difference in power there. HH has done an admirable job of keeping the weight down on their brushless planes and as a result they still maintain the floatiness and slow flying and landing speeds at low throttle, but crank up the throttle and they will rocket away leaving the brushed ones in the dust. I ended up doing a brushless conversion on my P51 but it still didn't fly nearly as good as the stock HH brushless planes. They are just so nicely designed and well-balanced, they're hard to beat.
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 02:07 PM
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thanks for the input tres wright. i think i may be good with the brushed ones though based on my flying area.
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 02:11 PM
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find myself flying 1s brushed brick micros quite often. Most can fly in the front yard and are great for a 5minute flying fix. front yard - Champ, NV, dlg, alula, fokker, etc...

becomes more of an event flying the 2S brick/415 combos, have to get 'ready' carry more gear, couple planes and walk to the park for bigger space and higher elevation. park flyer 2s - skysurfer, beast, sky500, jet420, etc...
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 04:48 PM
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How do these brushed motors hold up over time?

I don't own one of these UM yet but want 1...or more My experience with brushed motors on helicopters was that they didn't last more than 10-20 hrs of operations before wearing out. Are these motors much more durable?
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 07:06 PM
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How do these brushed motors hold up over time?

I don't own one of these UM yet but want 1...or more My experience with brushed motors on helicopters was that they didn't last more than 10-20 hrs of operations before wearing out. Are these motors much more durable?
it depends really. i can't say much about the motors in my champ and t-28 right now since they don't have much flights on them but my ember 2's first motor got a good 150 flights and was still going strong! only reason why i replaced it was because i wanted to try out the j-3 cub motor in it, otherwise that stock motor was going strong! On the other hand, my j-3 cub motor started to go out after only 10 flights...not sure if i did something wrong or just got unlucky.
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 08:18 PM
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Good to know...so depends on your luck. I'm guessing the meshing on the gear, if too tight, can be extra stress on the motor. A few hard landings on the prop will bend the meshing to either too tight or too loose and thus slippage. This leads me to direct drive that brushless tends to use...hmmm...
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