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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:23 AM
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OK, so is there a link to this hk cable that will be needed please?
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:28 AM
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technically its a programmer (dongle in pop parlance) not a cable but heres the link:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...occessors.html

a great deal considering, as i said, it comes with the much more convenient 6 pin cable. for those that dont like wiring well worth the extra 2 bucks over $3 ebay units that have the 10 pin atmel pinout.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:45 AM
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Thanks, much appreciated.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:50 AM
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[QUOTE=dave1993;23446444]both wrong. none of the three boards i purchased from steven had a built-in programmer. backlight... yes. jack for an isp dongle... yes. programmer... no. unless he has added one recently which i doubt.

http://www.smartieparts.com/shop/ind...roducts_id=331

Have you even looked at this page
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:00 AM
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both wrong. none of the three boards i purchased from steven had a built-in programmer. backlight... yes. jack for an isp dongle... yes. programmer... no. unless he has added one recently which i doubt.
Weird. It's described as a programmer, and all I used was a normal USB cable to the PC, and some software drivers.

How did you use the Smartieparts board with an external programmer?
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:02 AM
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Dave are you off your meds? The smartieparts board was and always has been a no solder programmer board for the 9x. Not a no solder interface for connecting a programmer. Also, the HK USB asp programmer you linked to has a 10 pin connector. The cable just has a 6 pin breakout. All the eBay versions are the same thing. My eBay USB asp's have all come with a 10 and 6 pin combo cable.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:04 AM
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was it always built-in? i did not use the boards myself but installed for some local guys. and the ones i put in had el not led backlight. i always figured this was a good deal for those who dont like to solder but with the improvements and lower price id have to say its a bargain.

im also very curious how the new teleme-trees is going to work out.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Yes early ones were el and then that changed when Stevens el source dried up and the HK led backlight was the better solution.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:10 AM
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Also, the HK USB asp programmer you linked to is a 10 pin connector. The cable just has a 6 pin breakout. All the eBay versions are the same thing. My eBay USB asp's have all come with a 10 and 6 pin combo cable.
well.. at the risk of making a fool of myself again ill say that none of the 300 or so $3 ebay usbasp (both lcsoft and betemcu design) came with 6 pin. i might have missed the boat on the smartiepants. i was sure it had just pinout, dont actually use them myself and it was couple years ago. but id like to see a link to the $3 ebay with 6 pin.

btw 300 is no exaggeration. and if i could find 6 pin versions cheap it would save me a lot of work. more expensive units like the hk one do come with a variety of adapters but afaik not the cheapo usbasp dongles.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:18 AM
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I think there is some confusion with the use of the word programmer in reference to the Smartieparts board.

The board is a solderless solution for flashing firmware to your 9x, specifically er9x, open9x, radio clone, etc. After the board is installed in your radio, it interfaces with your PC via a mini USB dongle located in the battery compartment. You use a software interface such as eepe to connect and flash information to the tx. That IS a programmer.

The wired one people are speaking of requires extensive soldering to make it work, and even soldering to the tiny atmega pins. This is also a programmer as it also interfaces with the EEPROM with the ability to flash new firmware.

Latest revision also supports HK backlight and new TelemetrEz (which is a way to view your FrSky telemetry directly on the stock 9x screen, though you can install this without the smartieparts board with some additional soldering).

Read here and note "programming board" in the title:
http://www.smartieparts.com/shop/ind...roducts_id=331

I hope that clears some things up...
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:34 AM
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yes, im aware of the difference but time clouds the memory. and as crucial suggests i admit to palming my meds lately, they interfere with my "creativity". lol! just because its called "programming board" dont necessarily mean built-in but the m8 footprint is a dead giveaway.

anyway id like to find a 6-pin version of the $3 usbasp. i see adapters for couple bucks and versions that cost 2x more than hk but no cheap ones. i dont know why because the 6 pin interface is far more common. it would save me quite a bit of expense and effort on one of my regular assembly house jobs. theres another lot going out end of month and a link would be great.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 01:42 PM
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The wired one people are speaking of requires extensive soldering to make it work, and even soldering to the tiny atmega pins.
I would not call soldering six wires to pre-tinned contact patches on the PBC extensive. Assuming one can solder at all. If not, then the sp board is a good choise. The downside is 10x price. I prefer the soldered one because it is piece of cake plus it is 100% secure connection which is not affected by dirt or time.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 02:05 PM
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I would not call soldering six wires to pre-tinned contact patches on the PBC extensive. Assuming one can solder at all. If not, then the sp board is a good choise. The downsixe is 10x price. I prefer the soldered one because it is piece of cake plus it is 100% secure connection which is not affected by dirt or time.
I just wasn't initially thrilled about soldering my tx when I first got it...I had done wire type soldering only and guess I was a little intimidated by soldering on a circuit board...SP was a good alternative for me albeit the cost...
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 02:24 PM
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Hi guys, i want to get a better screen and a better board for my turnigy 9x and i want to use telemetry as well, what board do you guys recommend? i have Er9x

thanks,
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 08:28 PM
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Hi guys, i want to get a better screen and a better board for my turnigy 9x and i want to use telemetry as well, what board do you guys recommend? i have Er9x

thanks,
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I do not know about the telementry but you cannot upgrade the screen. The screen is attached with the thinest ribbon cable possible and I could not reattach it on my (already broken) 9X.

I don't know why you want to replace the screen as it is a realitively good screen. And before you say it, the chip is not powerful enough to drive a touch screen.

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