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Old Nov 14, 2012, 04:43 PM
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Are you the type to put shiny chrome rims on your car? If so then maybe you would consider it an upgrade.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 04:51 PM
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I see a lot of the radios out there with the same type of look. Chrome on part of the face. I know Spektrum does it on their upper end models. Futaba too.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 04:58 PM
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I see a lot of the radios out there with the same type of look. Chrome on part of the face. I know Spektrum does it on their upper end models. Futaba too.
It looks like crap the first time you lay a finger on it though so I have mixed feelings. Metal is nice and durable, but chrome you just see all the dirt, grime and fingerprints.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 05:03 PM
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I understand where you're coming from. Just that I haven't heard too much backlash about the chrome on the more expensive radios. Seems it's something that's prevalent in the industry. However, on this $50 radio...I already heard a few voice their opinion about the use of chrome. Definitely in the realm of, can't please everyone.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 05:15 PM
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I understand where you're coming from. Just that I haven't heard too much backlash about the chrome on the more expensive radios. Seems it's something that's prevalent in the industry. However, on this $50 radio...I already heard a few voice their opinion about the use of chrome. Definitely in the realm of, can't please everyone.
It's paint though not real chrome (or at least that's what it looks like). So it's probably only a matter of time till it starts wearing off and looks real ugly.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 05:26 PM
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just counted and ive got 8 trannys here of which im actively using 3. be so nice to have just one (possibly with one identical as a spare!).
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 07:34 PM
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I read some angst towards FPV in between the lines... rolleyes right back at ya!
Not at all. I have made several flights on a friends FPV setup which I did find intriguing, and may have a dabble with my own gear next year if time allows. However, no pilot i've ever met (FPV or LOS) has been asking for extra sticks on the back of the TX. Those that do fly FPV seem to use a head tracker or simple TX mix if they have pan/tilt on their camera, both of which will give a more natural, realistic experience than your third stick ever would (it also increases pilot workload unnecessarily).

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Also, to both of you, the RC-hobby is moving toward FPV whether you like it or not.
I don't disagree to a point, but right now FPV is still the upstart in terms of % uptake/RC spend - 95%+ of new radios will be used exclusively for LOS flying. If you're HK which market would you prioritise? Here's a clue; they are not a charity operating solely for your benefit...

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Telemetry in my book is a recipe for disaster as most RC-fliers don't even know what RFI is and don't do proper range checks.
Ok, so it's a bad idea I can check my RX voltage before I make a flight? Having an alarm ping when my range is at the limit of my TX or my battery reaches 20% capacity is a needless distraction? What do you think your OSD is if not telemetry - black magic?

Of course none of that replaces good prep and pre-flight checks, but come on - it all helps improve safety and the overall flying experience. Ditching the telemetry so many people have been eager to buy (and has driven revenues for RC manufacturers) and replacing it with a third stick on the back of the TX with an established market of 2 would be a crazy strategy for a mass market product.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 07:52 PM
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Any FlySky modules available?

I'm interested not just for the 9XR, but also for the 9x. I've got my home-made one with the antenna taken out of the 9x and attached, but I wouldn't mind having a better-made one.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 09:17 PM
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Have you looked in the Radio FS Classifieds?

Hmmm. Looks like there's one for sale.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1767216


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Old Nov 14, 2012, 10:16 PM
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I think I might just wait a little longer and get the 9XRS hardware refresh net year.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 10:49 PM
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X12D will be just around the corner at about the time the 9XRS comes out, so you'll find yourself waiting even longer.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 01:36 AM
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X12D will be just around the corner at about the time the 9XRS comes out, so you'll find yourself waiting even longer.
There's always a better Tx just around the corner!
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 03:17 AM
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Not at all. I have made several flights on a friends FPV setup which I did find intriguing, and may have a dabble with my own gear next year if time allows. However, no pilot i've ever met (FPV or LOS) has been asking for extra sticks on the back of the TX. Those that do fly FPV seem to use a head tracker or simple TX mix if they have pan/tilt on their camera, both of which will give a more natural, realistic experience than your third stick ever would (it also increases pilot workload unnecessarily).
Well let's just say I disagree. I've flown with all those methods and the best is IMO an extra stick, it's also the most relaxing method. Have you tried any of these methods otherwise you're just guessing. With HT you quite often have to re-center which does take away quite a bit of the immersion. Mixing, well to mix let's say pan with rudder does make it really hard if you like to look another way. Without an extra stick I move the camera using pots or pre-defined positions using a 3-pos switch. Another tiny stick would make this a whole lot less taxing, contrary to your post.

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I don't disagree to a point, but right now FPV is still the upstart in terms of % uptake/RC spend - 95%+ of new radios will be used exclusively for LOS flying. If you're HK which market would you prioritise? Here's a clue; they are not a charity operating solely for your benefit...
Why would they make something solely for me, have I written that? You are indeed trolling you know that? Well I guess I can agree that this radio isn't the best one for this, it's after all a budget solution with the cheapest parts made with as little quality as possible to get it on the market, as most products are these days. I'll probably buy one anyway and make the mods.

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Ok, so it's a bad idea I can check my RX voltage before I make a flight? Having an alarm ping when my range is at the limit of my TX or my battery reaches 20% capacity is a needless distraction? What do you think your OSD is if not telemetry - black magic?
My OSD is not in any way a telemetry system. by itself. It is in combination with a video transmitter. Anyway any serious FPVer must make proper rangechecks otherwise they won't get off the ground. Also most FPVers does now a little bit about RFI. The problem with transceivers is that they add a transmitting device in a small space.

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Of course none of that replaces good prep and pre-flight checks, but come on - it all helps improve safety and the overall flying experience. Ditching the telemetry so many people have been eager to buy (and has driven revenues for RC manufacturers) and replacing it with a third stick on the back of the TX with an established market of 2 would be a crazy strategy for a mass market product.
Other then the telemetry system adding safety I do agree with you, this is prob the wrong product for that.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 03:54 AM
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Well let's just say I disagree. I've flown with all those methods and the best is IMO an extra stick, it's also the most relaxing method.
Well as you said, "in your opinion"... and it seems not many are sharing it
I don't see myself actuating 2 sticks at the same time with the same hand precisely. And I like smooth camera movements, not jerky ones
One thing I'd consider is a switch that when engaged "locks" the current throttle/rudder position, and remaps the left stick to control camera. That would do it, because there's only one thing to actuate with the hand. Haven't tried it, as to me this is the situation where I'd use a head tracker. Not a cr*ppy one that drifts like crazy though

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The problem with transceivers is that they add a transmitting device in a small space.
But it's not a problem, as the thing that suffers most from onboard transmitters is the R/C receiver. But a telemetry receiver doesn't affect itself as it never sends and receive at the same time.
I have 6 FPV models that I was flying on 35MHz and converted to FrSky telemetry during this year, not a single one has shown any problem. It's the opposite, I've finally said goodbye to situations where the exact same setup would fly to 2km one day, and give up on me at 300m the next day. Telemetry is a great addition to know if something's not right. A ground range check is a start, tells you if you can fly or not. If you can, than thanks to it you'll then have a much finer feeling of how things go in flight. Just like video where you like it to become noisy progressively instead of just cutting for good at some point, remote RSSI beep frequency/intensity gives you that same scale.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:18 AM
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would you mind taking the discussions on a 3rd stick to another thread please, so we can focus on the 9XR. I've been rc ing for 15 years and still trying to master 2.
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