Originally Posted by garrettt04s

Took my Nemesis out today after a near disaster last week. Taxied out took off flew around for a few minutes started to slow and decend and then plane started to turn uncontrollably. I immediately tried to compensate with no responce.

Tip stall. Giving opposite aileron and pulling up would make it worse and cause the death spiral. I would have thought the clue was in the name of the plane.

Originally Posted by garrettt04s

its not so little has a 1560mm wingspan

Wingspan has nothing to do with on it's own ... it is only a part of the factor of aspect ratio, wing-loading and aerofoil form.
Combination of those factors are the real deal when it comes to a floater or a hottie !

16 oz/ft2 is warbird size. These can't be flown slowly.

Originally Posted by Sparky Paul

16 oz/ft2 is warbird size. These can't be flown slowly.

16 oz/sq ft is not even close to a warbird, it's just past the point of floater into sport plane territory. 20 years ago trainers had wing loadings in the 15-17 ounce range.

25+ oz/sq ft is more like a warbird.

Wing loading on it's own means little in practical terms. The overall size of the plane needs to be considered. A wing loading that results in a 'lead brick' at 26" wingspan would be a the lightest of floaters at 126" span.. that's why some prefer to talk about cubic wing loading

so basically i flew to slow and tip stalled the thing? Wish I would have known and i would have never slowed it down so much.

Originally Posted by garrettt04s

so basically i flew to slow and tip stalled the thing? Wish I would have known and i would have never slowed it down so much.

That is why on the first flight of any new airplane it is a wise idea to take it up to altitude, pull the throttle back and see just how slow it will fly. How else does one know at what speed to land? All planes are different.

Larry

I was at some altitude. I did some passes at half throttle then decided to slow her down. The spin was uncontrollable and I wasnt able to recover in time even at full throttle. It actually bellied when it hit, so maybe if i was just a little bit faster on my reaction or a bit higher I might have been able to save it. Great Planes Revolver is on its way to replace the nemesis.

Thanks for the tips they are appreciated

If it happens again you need to gun the throttle and push the stick forward to get airspeed. Unfortunately the natural 'gut reaction' thing to do is full up elevator which is is a sure fire way up keeping it stalled.

If it's any consolation even trained and experience professional pilots make the same basic mistake, Air France flight 447 being recent tragic example.

I dont plan on it happening again. Now that im getting into faster sport flying planes, Im going to keep the airspeed up at all times except landings lol. Dont want a repeat of the devastation lol

don't slow it down too much on landings either - it can happen there too. As to your new revolver on the way. I'll say right off that I have no experience flying one whatsoever and have never seen a real one, but on the great planes simulator, it is one of the worst planes to tip stall I ever tried to fool with. Be careful with it until you learn it. Some designs are considerably worse than others when it comes to tip stalling. I have noticed that the eliptical shaped wings like the spitfires and stinson seem to be extra sensitive and an earlier poster stated that most wings that have a lot of taper to them tend to be in this category. Broader wings that do not taper much toward the tips seem to be less susceptable also. You are not the first nor will you be the last to learn this trait. Even the planes that tend to be sensitive to this fly great as long as you keep the speed up.

As was stated is a previous post, it's a good idea to incorporate into your maiden flight a test, by taking the plane up high (like 3 mistakes) and put it in a gentle climb with the motor at idle. Take note of the speed it's flying when it stalls, then always keep it above that speed. This test will also show you how the plane will react if you do stall it. Some will just get mushy and drop the nose and start flying again, others will drop a wing, some more dramatically than others. Also take note of the behavior of the aircraft just prior to the stall. While some aircraft will just fly on until they stall, others will do a slight wing wiggle or something similar just prior to entering the stall. If you now know that and happen to get that slow you'll recognize it and be able to take preventive measures to prevent the stall instead of being caught off guard by the stall.

Also you dont need to be flying slow to stall. Stall is caused when the wing's angle of attack goes beyond the critical point and this can happen at pretty much any flying speed if you pull in enough elevator. High speed stalls are known as accellerated stalls and can be much more violent than 'normal' low speed stalls, especially on a plane that tip stalls.

So worry less about speed and more about the right stick... On a plane that's properly trimmed you cant fly too slow without pulling back un the elevator anyway, so dont over-doo the elevator and the speed looks after itself.

You might want to program aileron with rudder on a switch for take-off and landing. That will help prevent tip-stalling.