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Old Mar 27, 2012, 07:32 PM
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Hunter-Vtail 400&500 by DialFonzo & Bledi

Hi All,

I am proud to introduce the Vtail by DiaLFonZo & Bledi.
This is born by an idea of Bledi that he already fly.
He contact me to make a frame that would integrate that Vtail setup into a complete
already made frame.

"RELATED MANUALS"

After many hour of design the frame was born...!!
It will be in 2 size version
400mm and 500mm motor to motor size.
The one i cut is the 500mm size

I cut the first prototype yesterday (26-03-2012) and.. i LOVE the frame.





500mm vs 400mm



Motor Hole dimension (Asked by a customer) 30mm



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Should be availible from:

=============== Canada ================

info@dialfonzo-copter.com

=============== USA================

400mm Version (8" prop)
500mm Version (10" prop)

=============== France ================

400mm Version (8" prop)
500mm Version (10" prop)

=============== WorldWide================

All Versions
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----- Pictures section -----

Frame cut and assembled... (23:50h ...)








To the scale... ! (300g all assembled)





500mm in two color Black & Yellow


HD Here

400mm in two color Black & Red


HD Here

Fly by Warthox...!!

mwc quad // hunter vtail 400 (2 min 19 sec)



Very first flight video... Woot Woot ...!

Hunter-Vtail First day flight ever! (2 min 44 sec)


Quadrino Flight

DiaLFonZo V-Tail Frame 500mm (8 min 12 sec)


Here are 2 of the Bledi copter that inspired the design



You can look at his Vtail flight at:

BlediARDRONE's channel

And by the time your on YouTube... look at mine too..

DiaLFonZoCopter

Very nice pictures of the VTail
They are from "danielnc06" and i thanks him a lot


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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
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Flight Controller setup section

--- 31-01-2014 --- Update ---

BrandXPD had done a lot of tests on VTail platforms and i thanks him a LOT.
Here are his files and Prop rotation Pinouts..

MultiWii_2_2_Flip_2_0_Hunter_400_Test

MultiWii_2_2_Flip_2_0_Mini_Hunter



--- 16-07-2013 --- Update ---

Hi All,
I have a request for me to put the manual that my friend did up here.
So here it is now.

--- 22-02-2013 --- Update ---

Ok it's quite confusing now with all the different configurations you can choose for VTail.

Here is the revised drawing that show different configuration on MultiWii





---- Yaw motor pins reversed ---



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tech69x - Advice on KK board

With this mix you can't go wrong with the kk
V tale
Mine is finally up and running with the kk2... just some minor tweaking now...had to change some very random things to get a good mix....

again my setup is a kk2 with 750 kv motors 10x4.7 props, and 3 cell battery on the 400 frame...hovers around 55% throttle...this may save some people some trouble if they have a similar setup..

So initial changes... flip all prop/motors directions to (from looking over head) M1 front left is CCW, M2 front right is CW, M3 rear left is CW, and M4 rear right is CCW.

set the kk2 to VTail.. calibrate your sensors... and start with the mixer settings

CH1:

Throttle: 100
Aileron: -100
Elevator: 100
Rudder: -40
Offset: 0

CH2:

Throttle: 100
Aileron: 100
Elevator: 100
Rudder: 40
Offset: 0

CH3:

Throttle: 95
Aileron: 0
Elevator: -100
Rudder: 100
Offset: 0

CH4:

Throttle: 95
Aileron: 0
Elevator: -100
Rudder: -100
Offset: 0

Now some rough PI values (mainly just a starting point)

Roll:

P gain:55
P limit:90
I gain:30
I limit:20

Pitch:

P gain:30
P limit:90
I gain:30
I limit:20

Yaw:

P gain:40
P limit:20
I gain:20
I limit:20

Hope this can help anyone else out there. Any suggestions or errors seen from any of the experiences users?
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:10 PM
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i saw the video of the "Bledi copter" flying..
it looked great!

now i see this frame....

saweet!!!!

does it need other firmware? and what boards can one use?
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchcommando View Post
i saw the video of the "Bledi copter" flying..
it looked great!

now i see this frame....

saweet!!!!

does it need other firmware? and what boards can one use?
I didn't fly it myself yet.
Bledi told me that Y4 setup work good.
Also in multiwii 2.0 there is vtail config
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 10:44 PM
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I'm currently the owner of the very first prototype of this frame. I just had a 5 minutes flight with it outside using kda motors, rushduino fc and citrus imu. Wow, that copter is a man !
Its a big boy, with a lot, i mean a big big bunch of yaw authority ! I will work with dialfonzo to give him more details, but, this thing is great !
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 11:24 PM
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Now I thought your other frames were great this one takes the cake. I think i just found my next build . I would love to get one of these from you as fast as possible. I have a show I am going to next month and would love to show and fly something like this there.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 12:09 AM
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Oh you talk about my baby
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 12:43 AM
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oo.. how much?
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 12:46 AM
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Bledi, yes this is a great frame design.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 02:57 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 03:02 AM
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Was totally thinking that when I saw the frame. Lol...
I thought my vario copter was cool and was going to be one of my last builds for awhile then you guys came out with this frame I am totally stoke about this one.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Very first assembled Picture from JonnyGab

First assembly pic...
Sorry but this was going so fast.. it was cut yesterday night.. was given to JonnyGab and assembled in the evening.. so.. no Ultra clean assembly.. lol


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Old Mar 28, 2012, 06:14 AM
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You never sleep in Canada or are you too exciting
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 06:20 AM
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You never sleep in Canada or are you too exciting
I think he was too exited..
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 06:34 AM
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You guys make some of the coolest frames, along with Vic20
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