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Old Mar 27, 2012, 03:34 AM
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Suggestions for an old timer build using an FS20 or 26.

Dear all,
one build is just about finished and I really want to build an 'Old Timer' next.
I have an OS FS 20 and 26 and came across this kit on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SSP-Q54-QUAK...#ht_600wt_1398

I've always like the shape of the Quaker, so my question is:
'Is the 54inch span suitable for the FS20 or 26, will the engine be too heavy, I think I should look for a model 60-66 inches in span?"

The FS20 should be ample for the above at 54", but I'm sure I could go a little larger - I've been doing my research and 'Old Timer' wing spans seem to jump to 72-84" and FS40+ power.

And yes, my last resort would be to scale a plan I like to 60 odd inches span, but the above is a laser-cut kit ready to go.

I'm open to any other vintage old timer models/plans/kit suggestions please
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 04:59 AM
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Hi,
There are loads of suitable designs.
Firstly, you've been considering a scaled down Quaker Flash. The standard size QF (67" span I think) would be ideal (it's one of my fleet of "nearly finished" models!).
Then there's the Black Magic, Junior 60, Southerner 60, Simplex or, a bit more unusual, the Halfax Spartan.
All these would be fine. There are just too many to list.
I have an OS20FS and the 26, and I'm keeping a Flair Black Magic kit for the 20FS "one of these days".
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 05:10 AM
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Many thanks, I had a feeling at 54" it was a little on the small side.
I do like the shape of the Junior 60, and Ben Buckle still kits them.
I'll keep looking
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 05:19 AM
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I had a FS26 in my 66" Super Scorpion for some years and it was delightful, just perfect for drifting around or some slow motion aero's. Handled windy weather well too.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 06:35 AM
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That's actually another model I'm now considering:
http://www.benbucklevintage.com/inde...&products_id=5
It seems 60" plus will be fine for the FS26 - do you think the FS20 will be enough power?
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Earl Stahl Fokker D-VIII

At the 2006 US SAM Champs there was a special event for Earl Stahl's Fokker D-VIII a 57 incch span gas model. There were 15 or 16 models intered in the event. Three had OS FS .26 engines. Two from Oz Allan Laycock and Bob Radtts. Models flew well. Jack
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Now that's lovely plane! I like it a lot, will look for the plans
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plans sites

OK, you mention "looking for plans"

If you have a good look around the two sites below (links), you'll find enough good vintage stuff to keep you going for ever!

http://www.model-plans.co.uk

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 12:28 PM
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Since we're not restricting ourselves to pre-'43 designs, how about a Swayback?
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I have fond memories of running both of those early little four bangers. What does spring to mind is that while the 20 made a lovely noise running, that was about it! The 26 was considerably more powerful - though hardly world beating - than the 20, which always reminded me of a pleasant sounding rubber band. Forget the exact numbers, but I recall the 26 had something like 50% or more power than the 20. But I did fly a 52" scale model of the Ford Flivver quite happily on my first 20 - the model weighed something like 53oz RTF.

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66" Red Zephyr and an OS 26 makes for a brillant model.

Bill

Bill`s 1936 Red Zephyr (5 min 38 sec)
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 02:26 AM
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OK, you mention "looking for plans"

If you have a good look around the two sites below (links), you'll find enough good vintage stuff to keep you going for ever!

http://www.model-plans.co.uk

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/
I'm currently sifting through those sites, putting a short list together..
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Since we're not restricting ourselves to pre-'43 designs, how about a Swayback?
Thanks, I did come across that too as I like checking 'The Building Board' from time to time. I really like the shape of it but couldn't see the wingspan anywhere, guess I'd print the plans at about 66" span? It's looked around 50" in the videos?
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I have fond memories of running both of those early little four bangers. What does spring to mind is that while the 20 made a lovely noise running, that was about it! The 26 was considerably more powerful - though hardly world beating - than the 20, which always reminded me of a pleasant sounding rubber band. Forget the exact numbers, but I recall the 26 had something like 50% or more power than the 20. But I did fly a 52" scale model of the Ford Flivver quite happily on my first 20 - the model weighed something like 53oz RTF.

Hope that helps

Dereck
Many thanks Dereck, I bought these engines new when they first came out and they have sat in boxes on a shelf since. I'm sure at this stage I'll build something for the 20, build it light, modern lightweight radio etc.. I guess most of the RTF weight will come from the engine itself
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66" Red Zephyr and an OS 26 makes for a brillant model.

Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-tqZRa1wU
Thank you Bill, there is also a short build elsewhere on rcgroups that i came across.
Lovely model and already my list of possibilities - I guess the FS20 may be a little small for it? - lovely video.
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