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Old Sep 07, 2012, 10:53 PM
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Yep. I sure does say 2.4 Ghz. LOL..

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Mike,
The pic is not of a 2.4Ghz board so what's the bind plug listed under packing?
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Old Sep 08, 2012, 09:24 AM
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Mike,
The pic is not of a 2.4Ghz board so what's the bind plug listed under packing?
Ken
WELL Ken why not order it. At least then you'll find out what type of receiver you'll get (with the bind plug)

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Old Sep 08, 2012, 09:59 AM
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WELL Ken why not order it. At least then you'll find out what type of receiver you'll get (with the bind plug)

Mike..
Nope. With my luck it'll turn out to be a 2.4Ghz board, then I'll have to track down a tx for it.
A couple for the good guys though. Antenna and missing screw have been posted and full refund for the two no motor pins PCBs.
Damn, now I have four 35mHZ PCBs to fit pins to.
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Old Sep 09, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Mike,
I've already got heaps of pins. It's paying 30 bucks for the exact same part I already get for $15 that's pssn me off especially after confirming with the supplier that the board had the pins. I was after an original board and prepared to pay the extra to get it.
Check this out. Going by the antenna length another load of Chinese BS.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Direc...534581618.html
Ken
Hi Ken,
It would really be great if it was a 2.4 G receiver, but like you were saying though, the antenna wire is a bit suspiciously and abnormally long for a 2.4 G receiver. I personally wouldn’t fall for that ad until I see an actual RTF Qs8006 helicopter being sold on eBay with the 2.4 G system.

Update on my Qs8006 Helicopter. Well I still can’t fly my 8006 yet. After waiting 3 1/2 weeks and receiving wrong part, the seller in China says he resent the right part out (that was about 2 weeks ago and without tracking number this time around), so far nothing received. Oh Well.
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Old Sep 09, 2012, 04:00 PM
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Hi boulier1, good to hear from you.
I needed to fit a servo to the 8006. Easy, buy one of these things (Ebay Item number: 110705582375), fit a 35.468mHZ crystal to it and it will work with my 35.468mHZ transmitter.... Ahhhmm no.
I have no clue as to the mechanics of servos, never used them. Whether power can be applied directly and or reversed, whether they have limit switches either mechanical or electronic or whether one is restricted to having a PWM setup.
I suppose the obvious question is whether I can operate a servo off the original 8006 PCB either in conjunction with the tail rotor or making use of the tail rotor power to operate the servo?
Any ideas?
Ken
Not being impolite, working on it. Got nice three channel tx/rx schematic I am playing with....will be back in a day or so....cheers
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Old Sep 09, 2012, 04:12 PM
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http://www.fatlion.com/sailplanes/radios.html
http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-servos.html

these articles do a good job of explaining, radios and servos

great article with controller schematics to drive servos using 555 timer

http://www.horrorseek.com/home/hallo..._RCServos.html
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 01:43 AM
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Hi Ken,
It would really be great if it was a 2.4 G receiver, but like you were saying though, the antenna wire is a bit suspiciously and abnormally long for a 2.4 G receiver. I personally wouldn’t fall for that ad until I see an actual RTF Qs8006 helicopter being sold on eBay with the 2.4 G system.

Update on my Qs8006 Helicopter. Well I still can’t fly my 8006 yet. After waiting 3 1/2 weeks and receiving wrong part, the seller in China says he resent the right part out (that was about 2 weeks ago and without tracking number this time around), so far nothing received. Oh Well.
Ray
Yeah, me again as well Ray,
Ordered some centre shaft/balance bar pivot sleeves (with picture), what arrives, bloody pivot pins.
Damn them….
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 08:06 AM
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Hi all,
After a solid week on the net I'm slowly getting the hang of it but only at surface level.
I have generally found that TX, RX info doesn't go deep enough or it can't be found at all.
When changing brand X model 1 to brand X model 2 there's plenty of info but when one wants to change brand X model 1 to brand Q model 55 there's nothing. Plenty of info for changing like for like but very little info when one is outside the box so to speak. Information on a particular brand and model is generally limited to plug this here, that there, switch on and off you go. I see little problem in fitting a PWM servo to a PWM controller connected to a PWM receiver but try finding out why the 8006 TX has a crystal but the RX doesn't and it's a different story.

I had looked at servo drivers using the 555 timer but without that 4th channel I am still stuck on just how the driver is to be "switched on" using what the 8006 has got now.
The idea behind using the EK2-0705B 4in1 35mHZ Controller was to give me that other channel, to be able to use the one original 8006 TX to operate both RXs. Leaving the original RX as is to operate the heli and the 35mHZ Controller just to operate a servo with scope for future ideas.

When hooked up the 35mHZ Controller servo seems to be "hunting", I assume for a pulse signal but I am not even sure if the 8006 TX produces the required signal or works entirely differently. Without "the proper" test equipment even checking whether the frequency is correct seems impossible and just how many channels are on the 35mHZ band? Channel whatever, TX working frequency x, RX crystal frequency x - something, what the.......

Which brings me back to the info problem or more correctly, the lack of info problem. Google 35.468mHZ (original 8006 TX crystal) and what does one get?
About 73 responses, mostly made in China - Frequency: 27.145MHZ 35.468MHZ for RC Hobby and Toy Helicopters.
Sorry guys I'm rambling, it's been a bad hair day....

Ken

ps. boulier1. I assume this would be ok for checking TX frequency but what about RX? (Item number: 200812735657)
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 10:08 AM
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Fyi

Got around to checking the newly delivered 35 Meg RXs and TXs.
Of the four RXs, there seems to be three different versions. None have main motor pins. Two have the green jumper leads two don’t. Diode setup varies with three of them with four diodes on top of board in differing layout configurations while one has two diodes above and two small diodes (?) under the board. Three boards have holes for the motor pins but they're either being used or obstructed by diodes, one board has no motor pin holes.
Of the two TXs, one, when easing on the throttle, starts top rotors well before lower rotors. Fingers crossed with the second one, seems ok.
I guess they still haven't figured it out, just more Chinese clap!
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Got around to checking the newly delivered 35 Meg RXs and TXs.
Of the four RXs, there seems to be three different versions. None have main motor pins. Two have the green jumper leads two don’t. Diode setup varies with three of them with four diodes on top of board in differing layout configurations while one has two diodes above and two small diodes (?) under the board. Three boards have holes for the motor pins but they're either being used or obstructed by diodes, one board has no motor pin holes.
Of the two TXs, one, when easing on the throttle, starts top rotors well before lower rotors. Fingers crossed with the second one, seems ok.
I guess they still haven't figured it out, just more Chinese clap!
Ken
Yep I thought that there is 3 versions of the board (mine 27 mHz), as I have them. But one with no main motor connector holes is useless to me..

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Old Sep 12, 2012, 11:42 PM
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SLEEVES - centre shaft/balance bar pivot pin.

Hi fellas,
Still chasing those sleeves for the centre shaft/balance bar pivot pin. According to my usual supplier "I also play this helicopter, But I don't found this part", "may your helicopter is old version, the new helicopter don't need the part" and "the factory also said not the part yet".
A couple of questions.
1. Anyone know where these sleeves can be obtained?
2. Are the sleeves still fitted in later version 8006s?
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Mike,
The pic is not of a 2.4Ghz board so what's the bind plug listed under packing?
Ken
I sure don't know. But how come shipping has gone very slow from China, cos I've ordered QS parts (on eBay) and now they take forever to arrive at my doorstep (Not from HK itself though)..


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Old Sep 13, 2012, 09:22 PM
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Hi Ray,
You may remember a while back I posted about the amount of up/down travel the balance bars had. I think I just found why the excessive travel (Refer to pic).
I had never even noticed this part until I started resurrecting the 8006 I totalled the other night and would not have seen it then if I had not decided to use a main frame/rotor/shaft/gear assembly I had removed from the second 8006 when I bought it and stuck it on a shelf.
From day one I've been fitting the balance bar pin without this sleeve and it's no wonder the balance bars have been moving almost twice the distance than when the sleeve is fitted.
In my defence, I checked 4 centre shafts today and all of the top pivot holes were less than 1.5mm and with the pivot pin 1.45mm diameter I suppose I could be forgiven for not picking this up.
I’m hoping that with the sleeve fitted there will be less balance bar travel and it’s affect on the top rotors may not be as severe as previous.
Ken
Ken You could use brass tubing, as My local hobby shop has all size's..


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Old Sep 13, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Ken You could use brass tubing, as My local hobby shop has all size's..

Mike..
Thanks Mike, it's worth a shot.
It seems the bean counters at GT Model decided to omit the sleeve in version 2 and just have a smaller hole in the centre shaft.
I'd like to keep using the sleeve as I find it a much "tighter" assembly with it in though I may have to wait until next time I'm in the big smoke.
The closest I would get to the sleeve locally would be a piece of half inch gal water pipe.
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