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Old Apr 04, 2012, 06:04 PM
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Phoenix also has hovering training.

Can't say as I can last that long at a hover, I'm still working at getting up to a minute tail-in.

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Old Apr 04, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Is this hovering in the wind or other simultated adverse conditions or without a flybar etc?
Because I can indeed hover my Belt CP V2 all day long indoors tail in.
In or out of ground effect.
That's easy.
I seem to have a lot of tail in hovering experience with all my helis.
I've not tried nose in with the CP yet but nose in no problems wit hmy coaxial or the 180D.
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Old Apr 05, 2012, 01:36 AM
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If you are doing this in RF in hover training mode, you are good to go.
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Old Apr 05, 2012, 03:43 AM
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Will try RF in hover training mode soon as I can. tnx for the advice!
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 01:33 PM
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I just got on the CP (Betlt CP V2) (indoors in a small room) last time I tried was 3 years ago.
I'm not as great as I thought I was :-)
I need a lot of work.
Almost lost it twice.

I'm trying to locate my old RF 4.5 Disks.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 08:05 PM
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Don't have RF anymore it was a copy of a buddies purchased copy but I never tried it because I did not have their remote that was needed and didn't have any interest
is messing with it, I purchased Clearview instead.

Does the $100 current RealFlight G6 basic include the hover practice you are talking about?

Also I took the BeltCP V2 out for a spin this afternoon in a parking lot with 3-5 MPH wind.
Had the training balls on it and did great but ALL I did was hover it tail in.
I can hold it pretty nicely and I can handle the wind meaning not crashing.
Usually opted for a landing when the wind started ripping on it.

I'm still terrified of crashing and having to wait a week for parts.
Guess you can tell I don't have a full set of spares.
What a newb eh? :-)
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 08:25 PM
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I believe RF 6 basic has the hover training mode. Mine is a lot older. Fear of crashing is a HUGE obstacle for many of us. That's the biggest reason I have been recommending the Blade MQx to beginners. You can't hurt the damn things! Plus, they have a wide performance range and really teach you a lot. Take away that fear of crashing and you can make some remarkable progress.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 08:54 PM
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Thanks!
And you can bet I'll be getting one soon as I can.
I'll bet $100 put toward that would be better than RF Basic.
So I'll need *both* :-)
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 09:00 PM
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Can you *repeat* which Blade that is?
MQx seems to be a quad copter.
Maybe that's what you're talking about if so that comes as quite a surprise.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 10:22 PM
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Can you *repeat* which Blade that is?
MQx seems to be a quad copter.
Maybe that's what you're talking about if so that comes as quite a surprise.
That's what it is alright, a quad! The biggest problem with recommending a quad is many people are resistant to the idea. I get it, I was one of them not long ago. So were a lot of other very experienced heli pilots on this site. You'd be surprised at the names you'll see in the MQx thread in the multi-rotor forum. Check these threads:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1627014

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1626668
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Old Apr 11, 2012, 11:19 PM
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It's on the wishlist now..
CP flying practice is going very well but it's going to take me a few months to get through it.
If I do it right, no crashes at least until I get cocky and go and try something risky.
Still not comfortable hitting idle up yet. or coming out of it for that matter..
On the bench with the belt cp v2 even at zero stick zero pitch coming OUT of idle up
creates a gush of downward thrust.. this might result in a crash if I land in idle up and then switch it off..
Not sure if this is normal or just some kind of bug in Esky's software.
Seems to happen about anywhere around mid stick if I shut down idle up mode.
you get a quick burst of downward blow as the blades quickly slow down to standard idle.
This heli /TX does not have any kind of throttle hold settings.. you get idle up and idle up off toggle that's it.
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Old Apr 12, 2012, 02:57 AM
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Here's me being a newb on my Esky Hunter Coaxial.
I crashed while I was messing around trying to balance/hold the cellphone camera..
and at a few times was paying more attention to that than flying.

:-)

Ok, this is a pretty pathetic video.
Me trying to grip my cell phone and fly at the same time.
+ I'm a beginner!

At times I was spending more cycles managing the phone/camera and not flying
the Heli.

Esky Hunter with

1. Extreme blades (the higher pitch ones)
2. Extended servo arms (made this heli worth keeping)
3. Metal inner shaft with cap :-) also raises upper blade by 8mm.
4. A bit lighter flybar
5. I put a bit bigger battery than stock on it (900mAh) and have it mounted
further forward, this thing flys a lot nicer when a bit nose heavy.

It flys really nice without the camera thing going on :-)


Steve

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Old Apr 14, 2012, 08:02 PM
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I sorta re-cap'd and my experience with this heli over on the established 180D review thread.
Which is over at:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ghlight=cb180d
Re-itterated some of my disgust that we discussed here.

I fixed it up with the last set of blades and main gear I had in the bag of parts.
After trying it just one more last time (We had no wind this Friday)
It crashed as usual :-)

Flew really nice until I tried to get it going just a little bit faster.
I now wish I had a video.. the people watching said it looked like I knew what I was doing until
BOOM!
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Old Apr 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
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I thought I was all outta blades, but I just discovered I can get one more use out of all the broken blades by drilling a hole at the end and plugging 'em back in and checking the balance.
Of course they're all about 1/2+1/2" shorter and I probably have a slightly different heli with slightly less lift and a slightly lighter 'disk' to work with but it still flys.

Maybe I'll try and strap my phone back to my head and get a good crash video in the day in the 3Mph wind.
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Old Apr 15, 2012, 03:15 AM
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I thought I was all outta blades, but I just discovered I can get one more use out of all the broken blades by drilling a hole at the end and plugging 'em back in and checking the balance.
Of course they're all about 1/2+1/2" shorter and I probably have a slightly different heli with slightly less lift and a slightly lighter 'disk' to work with but it still flys.

Maybe I'll try and strap my phone back to my head and get a good crash video in the day in the 3Mph wind.
Absolutely! Get them camera going and let us see what you're dealing with.

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