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Old Mar 13, 2012, 04:16 PM
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Another can you identify this thread :)

The title says it all...
I might have another great deal on some planes lined up, just need to know a bit about them.
Can anyone tell me who makes these, and what a fair price might be?
These are from an old lady whose husband died a few months ago. If we want them my aunt is going to bring them down this weekend, but I'd like to know what they are first...
Thanks again!
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 04:33 PM
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They are both Beech Staggerwings. The bottom one is almost certainly an old Byron Originals kit. The top one may be as well but I can't tell from the picture.
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 04:45 PM
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They are both Beech Staggerwings. The bottom one is almost certainly an old Byron Originals kit. The top one may be as well but I can't tell from the picture.
I think you're right. This was just the picture I got, with the two together...but I think the top is a full scale, and the bottom looks like a byron from what I've found. Thanks.

Now what would be a good price to offer on it? Considering I'm not there to see it in person, dont know what radio gear, engine, etc is in it...would $300 be fair?
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 04:54 PM
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Hard to say what it's worth from just the picture. If it has the Byron retractable gear in it, which it appears to have, then there are guys out there who would pay $300 for that alone. The Quadra 50 was a pretty standard engine for this bird but it's impossible to say if that is what is in this one. If it is built well and has serviceable engine and retracts then, IMHO, it's easily worth twice what you suggest.
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 06:16 PM
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Yes ..don't sell it short....that was one beautiful flying airplane,and you could set up a landing approach as if it were on rails.
That landing gear was in exactly the right place.....when the airplane touched down,it stayed planted.

They recently sold one NIB for 750.00...if that one is flyable and decent looking,ask at least 500.00..They don't make 'em like that any more.

Please get back to us with more info....Eng....Radio?? Retracts ??

The trainer behind it will be interesting to some newbie,most likely..
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
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Ok, I hear you.
The problem is, the airplane is in pittsburgh, and I'm here in VA. I'm going to see if my aunt can bring it down this weekend when she visits, so I can look at it and make an decent offer.
The problem is, I'm still in high school at the moment, and I wont have a job until this summer. If I can get it for even $500, I'll be doing a lot of sweet-talking my mom and dad and pretty much have a going loan on it all summer.
I would love to have it though, really like scale planes lately. I wanted to get into 3d...but I got a goldberg cub on the same type of deal from up there around pittsburgh, and it tracks perfect and flies great!

Now that my family know's I'm into RC stuff they keep sending me stuff like this that they find from people around pittsburgh where most of them live.

I don't want to rip the lady off, but this would most definitely be the star of my hangar if I could get a hold of it. Might actually sell one or two other planes if I had to...
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 04:18 AM
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I appreciate your not wanting to rip this lady off, but you might be wise to make her a fair offer,within your budget....
I do occasional estate sales for the LHS,and I've found the ladies are more interested in the items going to someone who would get use from them,and treat them with respect.
Lacking someone showing interest I've seen planes disposed of in dumpsters. Keeping that in mind,a reasonable offer may be accepted,by the seller.
Be fair,but don't feel guilty.....
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 10:19 AM
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"I'll be doing a lot of sweet-talking my mom and dad and pretty much have a going loan on it all summer"

Rotsa Ruck. I raised three sons and a grandson. Oldest son is now 57. Three of the four of them still owe me money I "loaned" them years ago:-))))))))))))))))))

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Old Mar 14, 2012, 10:34 AM
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Les....they do that so you won't forget 'em. lol Earl.
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Haha well I'll try to pay it back
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 12:33 PM
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Maybe a Ziroli?

I think you are right, the top is full scale (I did not look at the picture closely enough at first).
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Old Mar 15, 2012, 10:07 AM
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"Les....they do that so you won't forget 'em. lol Earl. "

That's amusing. Grandson came over the over day to make me a downpayment on what he owed me, and I had completely lost his account in a computer demise. Didn't remember how much he owed me. So he guessed at a figure, and I started a new account. At the rate he is paying, he will still be paying my estate, long after I'm gone:-))))))))))

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I promise to pay you back--Lord knows I'd rather die owing it to you,,than not pay you back!!!! ?lol

Not many people built the Ziroli Staggerwing,it's as nearly involved as the Top flite Stinson....It's well done,but requires a large time investment.

Nick designs a VERY flyable model aircraft..His DC-3 three is on on my bucket list
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The Ziroli is what I want to build...I have a Ziroli D-18 full kit that I need to start one of these days, but figured I should start with the single-engined D-17!

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I promise to pay you back--Lord knows I'd rather die owing it to you,,than not pay you back!!!! ?lol

Not many people built the Ziroli Staggerwing,it's as nearly involved as the Top flite Stinson....It's well done,but requires a large time investment.

Nick designs a VERY flyable model aircraft..His DC-3 three is on on my bucket list
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The top one is the full scale at the air and space museum in DC
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