Feb 10, 2013, 09:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by flint723 I think he's asking how to convert a 0 to 100 scale to a -100 to +100 scale. If that's the case it's this. [(the 0 to 100 value) - 50] x 2
I am all turned around now. I am not a math wizz for sure. The brackets and parentheses are a math I have not seen since high school and long forgotten

I just want to be able to say, put a pitch curve in at a -15% to a +65%.

Perhaps its already done in the Standard mode. Would a -15 & +65 be the same thing?

Or do I have to take my 15% number and -50 = -35 x 2 = -70 ?

Geesh!
Feb 10, 2013, 09:28 PM
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 Originally Posted by gapi I am all turned around now. I am not a math wizz for sure. The brackets and parentheses are a math I have not seen since high school and long forgotten I just want to be able to say, put a pitch curve in at a -15% to a +65%. Perhaps its already done in the Standard mode. Would a -15 & +65 be the same thing? Or do I have to take my 15% number and -50 = -35 x 2 = -70 ? Geesh!
For the pitch curves, you change nothing. Most tx's already use a -100 to +100 scale for that, so you would use the same thing in deviation, -15 and +65.

Now that I think about it, I may be confused as well because in the simplified version of deviation (which i have never used or seen) they may have used a 0 to 100 throttle to match other tx's. Which would mean you don't have to convert anything. I probably should have kept my mouth shut, sorry.
Feb 10, 2013, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by gapi I am all turned around now. I am not a math wizz for sure. The brackets and parentheses are a math I have not seen since high school and long forgotten I just want to be able to say, put a pitch curve in at a -15% to a +65%. Perhaps its already done in the Standard mode. Would a -15 & +65 be the same thing? Or do I have to take my 15% number and -50 = -35 x 2 = -70 ? Geesh!
Seems that the simplified is making more difficult I think you just want to enter -15 to 65. You should see the same numbers in the model file. You can always disconnect the motor and double check the actual pitch before you fly.
 Feb 10, 2013, 11:21 PM Seeking Control United States, NY, Amsterdam Joined Dec 2012 1,711 Posts Using 2.1.1 on the Devo 10. When a make a very small change to Heli.bmp using paint and save it as another file name the graphic doesn't load but is blank. The image is still 52 x 36 and the file size increases from 4k to 6k. What am I missing?
Feb 11, 2013, 12:54 AM
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 Originally Posted by lasakro Using 2.1.1 on the Devo 10. When a make a very small change to Heli.bmp using paint and save it as another file name the graphic doesn't load but is blank. The image is still 52 x 36 and the file size increases from 4k to 6k. What am I missing?
This will do the trick http://www.deviationtx.com/forum/mod...ng-model-icons
Feb 11, 2013, 07:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by SadSack This will do the trick http://www.deviationtx.com/forum/mod...ng-model-icons
That's is the missing piece. Thanks.
Feb 12, 2013, 03:13 AM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by flint723 I think he's asking how to convert a 0 to 100 scale to a -100 to +100 scale. If that's the case it's this. [(the 0 to 100 value) - 50] x 2 = (the -100 to +100 value)
or if you want to go the other way. +100 then divide by 2.
 Feb 12, 2013, 04:53 PM Registered User Joined Oct 2012 380 Posts @PhracturedBlue, @FDR_, @suvsuv and everybody who worked on Deviation firmware - thank you very much to all of you. I finally gave in and bought Devo 10. Yesterday I mounted A7105 transmitter from V929 on it (same as V911). Now I can control all my helis - mCPX, Mini CP, V911, V939 (my V929 stuck in a tree ;-) from a single transmitter, and a very fine one. Keep up good work! If I'd have transmitter for unknown protocol, I gladly help you in cracking it. I initially planned to buy Skyartec Nano CP, but Devo 10 bundle with Mini CP won.
 Feb 12, 2013, 04:56 PM Registered User Joined Oct 2012 380 Posts @PhracturedBlue BTW do you have schematics for power circuit for Devos? I recall that you mentioned it somewhere, and as I now have Devo 10 I can experiment freely with my defective Devo 7 which has power problem - it does not switch off. So if you already traced it it would help me.
Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by Xermalk or if you want to go the other way. +100 then divide by 2.
No. That doesn't work.
Convert a value of 80, for example using both methods.
The -50 rule gives a value of 60, which is correct.
The +100 method gives a value of 90, which is incorrect.
 Feb 12, 2013, 06:52 PM Registered User North Georgia Joined Oct 2010 425 Posts What are the EMU files in the Deviation nightlies? Thanks
Feb 12, 2013, 07:02 PM
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 Originally Posted by clearprop88 No. That doesn't work. Convert a value of 80, for example using both methods. The -50 rule gives a value of 60, which is correct. The +100 method gives a value of 90, which is incorrect.
Xermalk's +100 formula is for converting back to 0 to 100 scale. So if you had 80 on your throttle curve in deviation, using the +100 ÷ 2 and you get 90 which is correct.

Either way works.

(0 to 100) to (-100 to +100):

[(0 to 100 value)-50] x 2
or
[(0 to 100 value) x 2) -100

To to back to 0 to 100:

[(-100 to +100 value) ÷ 2] + 50
or
[(-100 to +100 value) +100] ÷ 2
 Feb 12, 2013, 07:37 PM Registered User North Georgia Joined Oct 2010 425 Posts Thanks Guys, Sorry for being so thick sculled. Once I click on it I'll be outa your hair. And maybe this will help others in a search. So....... which brings me to ask....... do I have to use this in all things Deviation? Or... in the nightlies Standard Mode can I just use the numbers I normally would in Walkera Devention?
 Feb 12, 2013, 07:44 PM Registered User Joined Apr 2011 2,398 Posts @xermalk My applogies. You are correct. As you said, "to go the other way". @flint723 Thanks for the clarification.
Feb 12, 2013, 07:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by gapi Thanks Guys, Sorry for being so thick sculled. Once I click on it I'll be outa your hair. And maybe this will help others in a search. So....... which brings me to ask....... do I have to use this in all things Deviation? Or... in the nightlies Standard Mode can I just use the numbers I normally would in Walkera Devention?
I have not used standard mode, but I think that was the point of having a standard mode.

The formulas only apply to "advanced" deviation, and even then, only to throttle and sometimes gyro gain.