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Old Mar 09, 2012, 09:38 PM
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heli guy wants a plane but want to skip the slow trainer plans

ive got the plane bug. i fly a t rex 600 n
i fly with dx8


im not conserned with build but i dont want to have to put wing coating on. id like to run 46 or possibly 61 motor.

so am i nuts for wanting to skip the trainer plane? i dont realy want to have 3d plane but id look to fly loops and inverted , also want something decent sized.

so what do you guys think. ive flown helis for a few years but not a single plane i have a real flight sim and can fly planes pretty well on there

thanks for any advice
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Old Mar 09, 2012, 10:16 PM
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The Avistar trainer with a .46 has a very large performance envelope ranging from mild to wild depending on how its trimmed/tuned/prop'd.

Its capable of taking you from 1st flight through doing all the aerobatics in the "Basic" IMAC class.

If you know someone with a Sig Kadet LT40 or Kadet Sr willing to buddy box you for a few flights you'd be ready for the Avistar pretty quick.

With the heli experience you already know about not overcontrolling, which is a big plus. Some guys spend years lurching around the sky before they figure out not to overcontrol.
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Old Mar 09, 2012, 10:21 PM
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A trainer would definetly be a good idea. You could go with a J-3 Cub or some other kind of advanced high wing plane, but if you crash it(It happens to all of us) it will be a bear to fix in comparison to a trainer. I would go with a Hobbistar 60 or an Alpha 40 in a year you can take all the gear out and get a different plane. Remember, you can always do basic tricks with a trainer. Another option would be a H9 Mustang. You can fly it with all the trainer options at first and take all that off and make some mods and have a great sport flier for a long time.
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Old Mar 09, 2012, 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the replies, ill check out the models you guys sugested.

I know all about crashing. There's was a while were I was buying a new 450 heli kit every few weeks.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 09:37 AM
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The "feel" of flying a fixed wing aircraft is totally, diametrically opposed to the of flying a chopper. With fixed wing, you have to anticipate where you are going to go. No last minute aborts possible.

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Old Mar 10, 2012, 09:55 AM
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I second the Avistar. It's my engine testbed and even though it's called a trainer, it's fun to fly. I take the dihedral out of mine.

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Old Mar 10, 2012, 10:43 AM
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very true, with the 600 i can pretty much stop or go any direction that i want. but when flying fast im thinking about 100ft in front of the bird

i checked out that hanger 9 mustang and that looks sweet.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 12:28 PM
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The mustang will have removable droops on the wings so it will stall at a slower speed. There are options for retracts and flaps and other good stuff like that. Like I said before, it is a good trainer, but take all the trainer options off and cut loose.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
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I saw that airbrakes and. Adjustable flaps that can be servo mounted. Fixed retracks..

I'm now wondering if this is sold as a kit with no electronics radio or motor.

I've got some 610s ,ar8000, rx power supply. Pretty much just need motor and plane.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 01:31 PM
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The H9 P51 is a decent choice for this purpose. Going from heli to plane is easier than plane to heli. I say have an experienced pilot help you out for the first few flights and you should be good to go. The progressive part removals on the mustang can help you gradually advance to a sport plane without buying two planes. The biggest difference with a plane is that you don't need to pitch it down to get it to go forward, it will just go forward by default... aside from that it's nearly identical to forward flight with a heli (you don't need much rudder to keep turns coordinated either).
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 02:52 PM
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They have an ARF version.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 02:59 PM
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The Avistar is a good choice for a trainer. Try to do some flights with so you know. It has very stable flight characteristics and its very fun to fly. You can put a 40 to 46 engine in it and do aerobatics.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 05:48 PM
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Friends don't let friends buy the pts mustang. You buy one now and when you take the junk off it then you just have an ugly, slow, heavy, unaerobatic mustang with a dog engine. Then you have to turn around and rebut it all if you want a real mustang lol

Skip the trainer & buy a first low wing aerobatic plane. I wouldn't start with a 3d or funfly's regardless of your heli experience. Planes are a game of energy management at all times just to fly & the only brake is when you hit something.

Full wing 4* or a super sportster. Good place to start.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 06:11 PM
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I'd recommend the Hobbistar 60. It's a great flying plane with a semi-symmetrical airfoil, so it'll do a lot of things a regular trainer cannot. The size also opens it up to lots of other possibilities, mine has a big trap door in the bottom to drop all sorts of things...
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 06:28 PM
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I built my 4*40 full wing and later clipped it, great idea on the 4* I have now done a bunch on mods like installing a huge rudder, the point is the 4* will be easy for you to start and with say a 46ax and a few mods it will last after you have learned the basics
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