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Old Dec 29, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Ok, I have the new one in the air. It came in @ 272 grams flying cg set @ 71 mm. Rudder option installed. It launches nice and high and flies lighter on the wing than my #1 Neos. I have 2hrs 30 min flying time so far and looks like I'll get more this weekend. My #1 Neos got the new tails installed so I will be testing both planes side by side to see there is any difference. I really like the CNC cut wing as it has a better leading edge with no panel breaks. The new tails look nice but after reading GT's post about making sure to extend the control surface to the tip I wonder why Thomas did not go this route? Maybe he will chime in and let us know why. Anyway after I get some time on them I report back as to what I think. We have been doing a lot of super light air flying this winter and I am really happy with the ability of the Neos to hang in and get air times out of almost nothing. When set up right and you get the proper speed for the conditions the Neos just rocks! The new one looks like it will improve on this as it came in 15 grams lighter.
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 03:01 PM
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Hey Dave. Is it the textreme version? or the carboline? Nice report. I find similar sentiments on flight characteristics. Very good performance from the non cnc core plane.
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 03:42 PM
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My new #2 Neos is the carboline. #1 is the textreme. If the carboline is better I'll be pumped!
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 04:53 PM
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Talking lead times....my flying buddy Chris needed a new set of elevators for his Shadow......6+ months later he had them. Now thats lead time!
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 06:33 PM
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+ 1000000!

Every dlg manufacturer I have ordered from and for me it's been quite a few has had major delay times that were unexpected. At least Thomas is honest and communicates this when the issue arises which at this point I consider a bonus in comparison to the others. Try getting a custom colored 3+ meter TD ship from the Ukraine! It will get to you in 3 different shipments at twice the quoted lead time which for me will probably amount to 3-5 months

PWR cut the melodrama.
Exactly!!!! The guys producing these awesome DLG's are doing it for the love of it! they all have day jobs to pay the bills. Do you really think you could make a living selling dlg's?
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 09:12 PM
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Alright, Chris D is on the short list, I can't wait!

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I believe the one after that is Chris D's and then Palle's, going from memory.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 04:06 AM
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Sorry

Good to see so many that will take Thomas in defense. I would too.

I also think he is a really nice guy, and he's doing some amazing models.

I'm sorry if I've been too hard on you Thomas, but it's frustrating to see it delayed so many times, now that I am so close and eager to get it.


But thanks for your reply, and I look forward to receive it, and in particular to meet you in DK next year.


Maybe he should have told everyone but you. lol
@jeff. You're evil

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Old Dec 30, 2012, 07:30 AM
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Palle, don't worry about it, it is my bad. I am really looking forward to flying with you next year in Denmark!

John, here's a pic of your carboline wing, I don't have the weight of it with LE sanded, but it should be close! You're going to love how stiff both your wings are

Dave, there's maybe 5 or so sets of tails hinged like that to address some concerns about (mainly) rudder hinge durability, and (secondarily) ease of setting trim. We've since went back to going full length surfaces on the tails. Anyone with a set of the tails with tabs, if you want a replacement let me know and I'll send over a set of new ones with full length surfaces for the cost of shipping, when we work through our list.

**I stand corrected, I popped into my office today after meeting the builder (5 hours back and forth...there goes Sunday! haha...) in the afternoon to check the list, the one after Tim should be Mike G, THEN Chris D, and Palle.

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Added a pic of the good 'old' days when we were building by hotwire cut cores and quick production rates!!
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 09:38 AM
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99.68 ? Wow. Super light!! Nice work!

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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:00 AM
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99.68 ? Wow. Super light!! Nice work!

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Thomas,

I'm guessing that Carboline covers the entire wing, and there's a uni-carbon spar underneath, top and bottom? Kevlar along the leading edge, or a carbon doubler?

Carboline or Vladimir's ST is a great weight-saver, but tends to look spotty due to the loose weave. In another thread, a fellow builder suggested adding black epoxy pigment or graphite to the epoxy to mask the weave.

Cheers, Charles

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Old Dec 30, 2012, 07:55 PM
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Thanks Brandon!

Charles, yes, Carboline covers entire wing (45deg). 1K carbon doubler on LE, 3K carbon doubler at tips, kevlar hinge, and glass doubler at root for topdrive. There are 8 full-length 1.5mm carbon rod spars in the Carboline wings (4 spars per half) - hence the stiffness.

Thanks for the tip on the pigmented epoxy, I wonder what that will do to that paint though? At the moment the wing does show a little bit of foam due to the nature of this material, but the finish itself is very good. I love the charcoal grey the carboline gives under light.

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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:52 PM
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Heads up, the recommended wing servos (Tahmazo TS-D6011's) are on sale right now until the 6th, go check it out on Facebook if you need any
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Heads up, the recommended wing servos (Tahmazo TS-D6011's) are on sale right now until the 6th, go check it out on Facebook if you need any
do you have a link?
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:46 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/ArmSoar

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Thanks lots of great stuff

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