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Old Mar 04, 2012, 08:48 AM
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Does anyone know where the manual is for this fuselage?
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Old Mar 04, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Attached is all I've ever found.
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Old Mar 04, 2012, 05:09 PM
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Old Mar 05, 2012, 07:02 AM
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Does anyone know how many amps a Swift will pull in scale type flying with a fuselage? The motor is Z30-800, 9 tooth pinion. It will have 550 blades on 6S.
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Old Mar 05, 2012, 08:18 AM
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I own the fuselage and thats all i have found on it also. I have not started my build yet.
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Does anyone know how many amps a Swift will pull in scale type flying with a fuselage? The motor is Z30-800, 9 tooth pinion. It will have 550 blades on 6S.
The amperage will depend a lot on the rotor speed you set for. Two calculate that I would need to know what size battery packs you plan to use with it.

With a 6S pack and your 800KV motor using the 9T pinion, and with your ESC set at 100%, you will get a pretty low rotor speed of about 1500. (fine for scale flying).

At that rotor speed you will be needing about 450 watts.

But to do a better calculation, we really would need to know how many celled battery you plan to use.
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6 cell batteries. Where do you get 450amps? I think a Swift 16 on 6 cell 800KV with 10 tooth only uses 30 amps in hover.(read that somewhere) I might have to get a data logger or something to figure it out. I have a CCHV 45amp controller I want to use if possible.
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6 cell batteries. Where do you get 450amps? I think a Swift 16 on 6 cell 800KV with 10 tooth only uses 30 amps in hover.(read that somewhere) I might have to get a data logger or something to figure it out. I have a CCHV 45amp controller I want to use if possible.
Sorry, I meant watts...I have edited my post.

I have also have now had a chance to check my Eagle Tree readout graphs from my 5S powered A109/Swift and its average watt requirement for a flight was 511 watts with an average amp draw of 30 amps. It uses the 530mm grey FunKey blades from Century and set for a 1750 head speed.
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Thanks rotoraddict. Hmmm. What do you think of a CC45HV for this heli? They are actully rated for 60 amp spikes. I have 3 of these (2 in Swifts) and they have never even been warm on landing. Maybe I should change ths thread to Coast Guard scale. Mant people seem to have them...
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I got the landing gear working. Watched the wheels go up and down many times. Pretty cool. rotoraddict, did you re-enforce, the glued joints? I was thinking of making a bead of epoxy around some of the wood parts. Might just be un-needed weight though.... What do you think?
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I got the landing gear working. Watched the wheels go up and down many times. Pretty cool. rotoraddict, did you re-enforce, the glued joints? I was thinking of making a bead of epoxy around some of the wood parts. Might just be un-needed weight though.... What do you think?
Sounds like your CCHV45 might be OK when using the lower rotor speeds we use for scale flying, as I have used the Century 55A one on the A109A.

I loved the retracts. My 14MZ radio has a servo speed adjustment so I set the servos that operate the retracts for a slower speed.

As for the glue reinforcements, I think that is a good idea though I did not do it on mine and it all seemed to take some of my harder landings in the following video pretty well. I do not think the extra weight would be all that significant as the Swift handles the scale weight very well.

Here is a video of mine doing multiple take offs & landings. It shows the retract operation very well:

Scale RC Coast Guard A109A (4 min 10 sec)
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Is the Swift inside all plastic except for the tail assembly? Has that video been around awhile? That might be the video that inspired me to buy mine...
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Old Mar 06, 2012, 08:17 PM
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Sorry, I meant watts...I have edited my post.

I have also have now had a chance to check my Eagle Tree readout graphs from my 5S powered A109/Swift and its average watt requirement for a flight was 511 watts with an average amp draw of 30 amps. It uses the 530mm grey FunKey blades from Century and set for a 1750 head speed.
Those are much the same as I have found with mine on 5S (515 watts) and a friend, using 4S packs at around 1450 for rotor speed, reads 458 watts.

P.S. Thanks for the great video. Do you have more?
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Is the Swift inside all plastic except for the tail assembly? Has that video been around awhile? That might be the video that inspired me to buy mine...
Yes, that is the stock Swift 16 with the metal gearbox at the back to facilitate installation.

I understand that the current stock Swift NX gearbox is a plastic version of this metal one so it may be used also.

Yes, that video has been out for awhile as are others on that same youtube site.
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I got the heli programmed and ready to fly. Need to strap on a battery and balance it. If it flys OK, without vibration, it goes in the fuselage. It has been very windy here..
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