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Old Mar 06, 2012, 03:14 PM
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That is the Commercial prototype version.

No idea on pricing on that.
Just in case your interested.

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For a system costing over $12k (gimbal stabilization only)
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 08:16 AM
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Short clip ..... also testing Ruling FPV radio system.

DJI Zenmuse S800 testing Ruling (6 min 49 sec)
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 08:33 AM
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Very impressive. I have no patience I hate the wait.
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 07:29 PM
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Reasking my question from the second post...

Some questions regarding nomenclature. When you say 0.05-degrees (0.8 milliradians) control accuracy, do you really mean the servo and gearing's (or other drive reduction) effective step resolution, or do you mean the gimbal's pointing accuracy as a repeatable function, or do you mean the gimbal's jitter stability?

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Old Mar 29, 2012, 08:05 PM
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They are direct drive motor driven motservo (not regular servo); gimbal pointing speed.
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 08:08 PM
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They are direct drive motor driven motservo (not regular servo); gimbal pointing speed.
Do you mean stepper motors?
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If you mean pointing speed then you need to specify different units such as degrees/second. So your answer is still not clear.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 08:26 AM
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They are direct drive motor driven motservo (not regular servo); gimbal pointing speed.
Direct drive motors are excellent, but to get high torque, you need high diameter and high voltage.
The current Zenmuse model is made for 2 lightweight cameras, and it is related to these DDM torque capability.
Several vids shot at NAB2012 show the size/diameter of the DDM, and the gimbal already weights 1,4kg, apparently...

At this price, pro AP users would expect to use heavier cameras.
So, the problem of this product is that the cost is for prop AP users, but the supported cameras are "hobby" style.

If DJI prepares a "pro version" allowing to embark pro gear, in a heavier range, my bet is that they won't scale up this design.
Required DDR would be too bulky, using higher voltage. (No gears).

This preorder story, with poor information spreading, is not smelling good, in my humble opinion.
Also, WKM "early birds" remember the fast moving price when released.
Gimbalist friends, prudence! :-)
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 09:19 AM
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Direct drive motors are excellent, but to get high torque, you need high diameter and high voltage.
The current Zenmuse model is made for 2 lightweight cameras, and it is related to these DDM torque capability.
Several vids shot at NAB2012 show the size/diameter of the DDM, and the gimbal already weights 1,4kg, apparently...

At this price, pro AP users would expect to use heavier cameras.
So, the problem of this product is that the cost is for prop AP users, but the supported cameras are "hobby" style.

If DJI prepares a "pro version" allowing to embark pro gear, in a heavier range, my bet is that they won't scale up this design.
Required DDR would be too bulky, using higher voltage. (No gears).

This preorder story, with poor information spreading, is not smelling good, in my humble opinion.
Also, WKM "early birds" remember the fast moving price when released.
Gimbalist friends, prudence! :-)
That is all false. There is FS100 Zenmuse gimbal. Its a special order and it will require to be used on Helis or make your own bracket to adapter to whatever airframe. You want to special order one let me know. Its not cheap.

They have 5D versions coming out shortly also.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Will there be a discount on the bigger one´s for existing users too?
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 03:59 PM
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That is all false. There is FS100 Zenmuse gimbal. Its a special order and it will require to be used on Helis or make your own bracket to adapter to whatever airframe. You want to special order one let me know. Its not cheap.

They have 5D versions coming out shortly also.
No, my tech infos about Direct Drive Servomotor are true, and easy to explore, this is a well-known motion control trend.
You mean my bet is wrong... perhaps!

But you can tell us how false it is, welcome.
DJI gimbals are a little mysterious, if i may.
"Military/Space" UAV gimbal turrets are so disclosed and documented, that they feel like being "Open-Source" compared to DJI secret products.

What is the price of the FS100?
Have you preliminary infos, like weight and motion control used? DDM?

There is a lot interest in gimbals, and this topic would deserve more serious answers than just negating, I think! No offense here.
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Old May 05, 2012, 01:19 AM
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DJI Zenmuse Gimbal raw footage (3 min 25 sec)


DJI Zenmuse Z15 S800 test video (3 min 27 sec)
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Old May 05, 2012, 01:32 AM
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Hi Sidney,

I'm in doubt here. There will be 2 versions of Zenmuse?
The first one thats already released for Sony Nex line of cameras and a second later Zenmuse model compatible with EOS 5D, RED Epic, etc? All models 3 axis?

Prices?

Thanks
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Old May 05, 2012, 01:40 AM
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Few versions will be available -Nex5-7 and FS100 (for heli only) are available. Red Epic in three months; others later days and I don't have exact schedule. Only Nex5-7 available for on line purchase.
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