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Old Mar 01, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Hitec Eclipse 7 or Futaba 8J?

I'm getting my first plane which is on order (Eflite Apprentice) and am looking for a radio to use with it but also be able to grow with me into the future on more advanced models.

I'm currently looking at the Hitec Eclipse 7 or Futaba 8J. Anyone have experience or opinions on these models? Would something else work better for me?

I do have a bunch of sim time and don't think I'll have too much of an issue flying the Apprentice with limited winds, but I need to decide on a radio system.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 02:29 PM
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yet another obscure Futaba offering - don't get me wrong this product will work well and be reliable - but there already is a T8FG

this brings Futaba Rx variety to all of what, 4?? FHSS, S-FHSS, Fasst and FASST-EST

what is the inter-operability on all this? this is baffling and unless the higher end radios can operate all Rx's then this could be quite costly too
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 02:29 PM
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I'm getting my first plane which is on order (Eflite Apprentice) and am looking for a radio to use with it but also be able to grow with me into the future on more advanced models.
I'm currently looking at the Hitec Eclipse 7 or Futaba 8JJ. Anyone have experience or opinions on these models? Would something else work better for me? I do have a bunch of sim time and don't think I'll have too much of an issue flying the Apprentice with limited winds, but I need to decide on a radio system. Thanks in advance.
Hitec Eclipse 7 Pro is not intended to be in the same class as the Futaba 8FG which can be expanded to more than 8 channels for high end users. the better comparison with the 8FG is the Hitec Aurora 9. (just noted OP had 8J - not seen here will check details as Heli Forum "the 8J is just another entry level S-FHSS only system based on the 9C software, but it's able to use S-BUS. And no telemetry that I can see in the pics" and amend this post if necessary)

. Servocity - More Eclipse 7 Pro photos and details.
NB: The US$179.99 exludes transmitter battery pack.
(some buyers will prefer to use existing 2S Lipo rather than pay extra for NiMH etc)
Verify package contents of all adverts, as packages are not the same in all countries
and will better explain price differences between various retailers and online sellers.
Later: Futaba 8J has Acro & Heli programming only.
Eclipse 7 Pro features Acro, Glider & Heli programming.
Eclipse 7 Pro has a Sensor Data Output and System Upgrade Connector Port.
A 3 pin servo plug connector port is featured on back side of Eclipse 7 Pro .
Using the HPP-22 PC interface accessory this port serves to facilitate upgrading
the devices software and downloading information from Optima 7,9 receiver if
using optional onboard sensor station..
( No need to send an Eclipse 7 Pro back to distributor or buy a new TX,
just download and install firmware updates via HPP-22 when available online)

With top of TX backlit on screen telemetry, the Eclipse 7 is very well suited to the greater majority
of sports fliers and using Optima transceivers, offers battery voltage with no additional add ons.

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Old Mar 02, 2012, 08:50 AM
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he's not looking to compare the Hitec Eclipse 7 Pro to the Futaba T8FG - he's looking to compare it to the Futaba 8J, which is a different, more budget oriented new offering from Futaba

my advice would be to decide where you would see yourself going in the future, radio wise - should you want to upgrade at some point, the Rx's Futaba use with the 8J are not currently compatible with FASST transmitters (except for the $2000 18MZ) ...

Hitec Rx's will operate with their other Tx's such as the A9.

The Eclipse 7 Pro is an upgrade of a proven radio, benefitting from the proven A9 technology and has a very useful voltage telemetry built into the receiver - no extra units or hassle - and a good clear screen which is ideally situated at the top of the Tx to read it off - plus the HItec programming is very comprehensive . .. ok you can tell which way I'm leaning here
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 12:29 PM
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The Futaba T8J is a great looking radio with all the features of a 8ch pro radio.

S-FHSS receivers are affordable and I can not see any reason why you would need FASST.
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Old Mar 05, 2012, 06:41 AM
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all very true - i think its a great radio no doubt about it ... however, I'd still go the Eclipse route for the following reasons

Better more comprehensive software
voltage telemetry - built in - further telemetry options available
better screen position
more solid feel and construction

in Futaba's favour are slightly lower latency... that's about it
Negatives for Futaba:
no telemetry
the Futaba software is more limited
flimsy plastic-y feel to Futabas newer radios vs Hitec's heavier more durable feel
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Old Apr 11, 2012, 01:44 AM
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No Sliders

And not on the 8J. Unless I missed it . . .
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Old Apr 11, 2012, 08:29 AM
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Big Bird,
The 18MZ is a $3000 radio, atleast here is the US.
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Old Apr 11, 2012, 08:31 AM
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I ended up going with the Aurora 9. Happy so far!
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Old Apr 12, 2012, 05:42 PM
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Aurora 9

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I ended up going with the Aurora 9. Happy so far!
Good choice!

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Old May 16, 2012, 12:57 PM
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I couldn't resist and hit the purchase button for an Eclipse Pro @ 109,- eur... Also purchased a T8J recently but I'm not sure if I should keep it. There seem to be some odd programming things with Futaba for me which I didn't know before. For example there is no way I'm able to programm flaps with a 5 chan micro FHSS rx???

Is it possible to hack a FRSky module into the Eclipse Pro?
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Old May 18, 2012, 12:49 AM
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Good choice!
I agree. I have the A9 and I'm quite satisfied. I find the new Eclipse 7 to be kind of odd. It has a very dated look, and there seems to be little consistency in the appearance or functionality of the various Hitec transmitters. The Eclipse 7 Pro does not have a travel limit feature, for example, so elevon mixing is not very flexible. At least the 8J has that. The Aurora can be had for as little as $310 with one 7 channel Optima and Hitec has a free Optima 7 offer right now with an A9 purchase. Not a bad deal.
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Old May 18, 2012, 05:31 AM
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Big Bird,
The 18MZ is a $3000 radio, atleast here is the US.
right you are - i was thinking 14mz
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:01 AM
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The Eclipse 7 Pro does not have a travel limit feature, for example, so elevon mixing is not very flexible.
Do you mean EPA (End Point Adjustment) ?

Refering to the manual this could be setup for all chanels...

http://hitecrcd.com/files/ECLIPSE%20...O%20MANUAL.pdf

Sure the 7P doesn't look like a 2012 tx but it's the features : price ratio that counts for me. I'm going to try it and see what it feels like...
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Old May 21, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Eclipse 7 pro does have EPA (servo travel limit) - absolutely no problem there - should be a really good radio
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