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Old Feb 28, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Help!
Please help identify these wings...

Hi guys, someone was nice enough to give me a 3 meter glider wing today (two halves).

I'd like to try and identify them so that I can find the correct fuselage, or at least know what the original design proportions called for.

If anyone can shed some light, here are the specs and photos:

Wing length: 1460mm each half
Width at base: 255mm
AiIlerons and Speedbrakes cut.
Original design seemed to call for pushrod-type ailerons and speedbrakes,(though it has been modded to take servo's in the wings now.)
Tips have a thin metal wire to "cap" them all around
Material: foam with natural wood veneer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 03:52 PM
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those look familiar?
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Wings?

Looks like a eppler 214 airfoil and maybe off a dogson design?
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 09:40 AM
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i was thinking the same
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 11:02 AM
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OK, I'll check into it..
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Good chance a Dodgson Design, but at 114" it is not a Lovesong or Windsong. Not sure.

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Old Mar 01, 2012, 05:44 PM
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yep those are wings!
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Old Mar 01, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Dodgson Camano 100 wings. It came out before the "regular" Camano and had spoilers instead of flaps. IIRC they used a 1/4" wing rod instead of a 5/16.
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 12:04 AM
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Aha!

OK then, if it's a Camano, where do I find design specs for a fuselage, pics etc? Anyone? I believe the Dodgsons are great fliers, so it's worth rebuilding?
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Dodgson Camano 100 wings. It came out before the "regular" Camano and had spoilers instead of flaps. IIRC they used a 1/4" wing rod instead of a 5/16.
Gotta disagree here. The original Camano had 111" wings and were built up from ribs and full span sheeting. It also had an Eppler 193 airfoil, very different from the Eppler 214. The first Camano 100's had the Eppler 193 with optional Eppler 205, and were the first Camano's with foam cores. The Eppler 214 version came along a couple years later. I don't recall if the 214 was ever offered in the earlier, spoiler fitted versions, but don't believe so.

This wing also doesn't show the other typical Dodgson touches such as the single, rear anti-rotation pin, anchor points for the retainer hooks, and location for spoiler actuation, which would have been pre-cut on the root rib. It also looks like the main joiner is way further back than Dodgson used.

If I had to guess on this wing, I'd say its an old Eismann Camaro or Focus, or the (non-Airtronics) Sagitta which was German made and was the first use of the E-214 that I am aware of.

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Old Mar 02, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Jt, normally I would defer to you, but I have a set of Dodgson wings at home with foam core, E214 airfoil and spoilers. I know they came from the "Camano 100" kit because the roots are cut for the old style t-tail fuse and not the later Windsong style. The tips were also large flat blocks instead of the tri-cut blocks on later kits. I suspect it was an intermediate kit.

Maybe Bob's yeti played a trick on us. ;-)

I will try to dig for some plans this weekend.
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 09:49 PM
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yep those are wings!
that was my guess too!
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Old Mar 03, 2012, 07:55 AM
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yep those are wings!
that was my guess too!
and same here!
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Old Mar 03, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Silly! :O)
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Old Mar 03, 2012, 08:24 AM
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LoL
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