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Old Oct 26, 2012, 12:48 PM
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Yes, working on a second color scheme for the 60" Laser.


sweet! looking forward to it.. thanks!
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 01:28 PM
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Very stable, very axial rolling, very precise and a tumbling machine.
doooh... is there a single ef plane were this one doesnt apply? :P
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 09:41 PM
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doooh... is there a single ef plane were this one doesnt apply? :P
No. They are all bad ass.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 01:35 AM
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Seems like BS, but it really is true. They are all amazing designs!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 11:48 AM
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 11:31 PM
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This makes me want a Laser
Leo Loudenslager Laser 200 Kalamazoo Michagan 1994 (9 min 52 sec)

If you aren't going to watch the whole thing AT LEAST watch 4:25-4:50 the announcer can barely keep up
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 07:26 AM
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Hey Doc!!!!

Did you see that mameuver he called a Lomcevak at around 8:50 or so?

I know it is not supposed to be invented yet, but that sure looks like a Pop Top to me????
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 07:33 AM
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A lomcevak is something different. Leo invented a maneuver called the "Zwimbleturm" that is what we call the pop top. I think the announcer just messed up. A Zwimbleturm and a pop top are the same thing. A lomcevak, however, is completely different.

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Old Oct 28, 2012, 07:39 AM
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Yes I knew it was not a Lomcevak. Had not heard of a Zwimbleturm though. I googled that and could find nothing? Are you sure of the spelling?
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 09:45 AM
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Hey Doc!!!!

Did you see that mameuver he called a Lomcevak at around 8:50 or so?

I know it is not supposed to be invented yet, but that sure looks like a Pop Top to me????
I first saw Leo do that about 1980 or so when Wide World Of Sports televised his world championship winning flights. I worked on that and worked on it but could never get it until I started flying a Velox, and then it was easy to hit. Funny how the real laser was the plane that did that mover first and it took us all this time to catch up. That's how far ahead of the game Leo was.

My only guess is that the conventional nitro planes I was fly were not capable of doing this maneuver. I've since gone back and done them with every 3D plane I have owned. When I try it with a conventional plane, it will just stand straight up and snap around the thrust line, but it won't flatten out and pop out of the top like a good 3D plane will.

As far as I can tell, no one else was doing these at the time, so I thought I had invented something. A friend coined it as "the enema," and it, uhhh, stuck (sorry, bad pun, I know). I've also seen the maneuver called a "Dutch Lomcevak."

I went to the 2006 Triple Creek 3D event and unveiled "the enema" to the public for the first time. I had a nice converstation with Chris Hinson about it, and I let him fly my plane and try it. That was my beginnings with Extreme Flight, and it's funny how everything always seems to go back to Leo and the Laser.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 09:49 AM
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The primary difference in my "pop top" to what everyohne else seems to be doing is that I enter mine inverted. I do this because I use the centrifigul force of the quarter outside loop entry to build energy and keep the plane from snapping toward the belly. A nice bonus is that this seems to hold the plane straight, and the energy seems to multiply, blowing the airplane straight out the top.

I've tried them upright but invcerted seems more natural and I can hit it every time. Upright not so much.


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This makes me want a Laser http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCQEm...=results_video
If you aren't going to watch the whole thing AT LEAST watch 4:25-4:50 the announcer can barely keep up
What? You didn't want one anyway?

Maybe this will help..................


My new laser is ready for decals, and B and E Graphix is shipping those out this week. It will be great to have a backup Laser. So far I have only been operating with just one, and the week I did not have one hanging over my desk really bugged me. I've wanted a Laser for so long that I think I may fly the new one and leave the current one hanging there forever, just so I can look at it. That will give me a handy excuse to build a third one.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 03:18 PM
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wow, cool doc....

amazing flying...

I hope for a second design for the 60" Laser.
From all i read about the Laser, i like this plane from flying style, but i didnīt like the look to much.

I am looking for a 60 - 64" plane next year. Maybe with new color sheme it could be a laser


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Old Oct 28, 2012, 03:28 PM
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You need to see it, and fly it! It changes your perspective.. Pictures don't do it justice.

Great stuff doc! Mines in sick bay getting a new wing, a fresh set of servos, and a I just ordered a couple of the new, Xoar PJNW(white) prop's.

The build room is full, so the kitchen will do.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 03:57 PM
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Sick flying as always Doc!
Thought I was witnessing a retirement in progress around 3:00 into that one
Good stuff.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 05:03 PM
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Got the maiden done today, flys really well on 3S and very floaty... but 4S might be in my future. Got about 1.5 "carankshaft" spins and just not enough speed.
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