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Old Feb 22, 2012, 09:58 PM
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ALES scoring programs!

This is great, now, People interested don't have to wade thru 2500 posts to find what they want to know. This thread is just to find out what scoring programs are being used and where we can get them! That it!

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Old Feb 22, 2012, 10:11 PM
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We've been using a spread sheet available at tailwind gliders. very easy to use.

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Old Feb 22, 2012, 10:38 PM
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saved to put all the progam links

I am saving this post to place all the links! in no order!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1587695&page=2

http://www.soarchicago.net/News_View.aspx?Articleid=17

http://olgol.com/F3KScore/index.html

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1571530

http://olgol.com/F3KScore/index.html

http://www.rcsoftware.cz/

http://www.gliderscore.com/

I think I added all the links to scoring programs in one post to make it easy to get them all! Just find the one that works for you and lets go flying!

http://tailwindgliders.com/Files.html#Articles

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Old Feb 22, 2012, 10:45 PM
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Mark, I have seen it, I use another one, I just want one place for new ALES guys to go to get what they need to make it happen!

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Old Feb 23, 2012, 08:05 AM
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We've been using a spread sheet available at tailwind gliders. very easy to use.

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Thanks Mark! Suggestions are always appreciated.

You can find the spreadsheet (file) at www.TailwindGliders.com on the "Articles/Files" page of the website.

I wrote an article for RCSD as well please make sure you read the article as it explains what it does and what it does not do. i.e. the limitations it has.

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Old Feb 23, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Al, which one are you using? You don't answer your own question.

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Old Feb 23, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Mark, I use this one,









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Old Feb 23, 2012, 07:30 PM
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Mark, I use this one,


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Where does this one come from Al? Did you write it or?
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Old Feb 23, 2012, 10:19 PM
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MrE, no, I did not write it! This, as I understand it is what is used at the NATS and all the clubs on the other coast doing ALES. Easy to use, and I want to know what everybody else is using! You can just open it and go to "imputs" to see who developed it.

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Gerry Carter has updated his GliderScore program to include scoring landings in accordance with our ALES rules. It can be downloaded from:

http://www.gliderscore.com/

This program has immense capability to deal with not only straight-away ALES contests, but whatever variations one can imagine.

It is a standalone (not spreadsheet based) program and IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SCREW IT UP. It is used worldwide for scoring virtually every kind of glider contest and is very well documented and supported.

IT IS VERY SIMPLE TO USE.

That said, it will keep a permanent entrant data base, a contest data base, it will score series standings and it can furnish database files to share with other users.

For all practical purposes it will allow any number of contestants, any number of rounds and any number of flight groups. It has a very sophisticated method of creating flight group matrices -- and of furnishing various views of how effectively contestants' encounters with each other are mixed. It runs multiple iterations of the matrices and selects the best one. It will take into account frequency conflicts in creating the matrices. And it will accommodate teams and team scoring and, if desired, throw-out rounds.

It will print out generic or personalized score cards and it will furnish current standings reports at any time during a competition. And for entrants who include their email addresses on their entry form, it will email results immediately after the competition is closed.

It will also score F5J comps without any fuss.

And when it is all done, it can furnish competition data in a format which can be analyzed to study flight time and landing score history to help understand the absolute and relative difficulties of those competition elements.

As powerful as it is, it can also be used on a small scale requiring the entry of simply the contest name, date and location, the task description (Duration), the landing description (choice from an editable "drop down box"), the entrants' names and radio frequencies and the number of rounds and flight groups desired. It can print the flight matrix for the contest and contestants can simply enter their Round Number, Flight Group Number, Flight Time and Landing Score with a magic marker on the discarded page of an old Funk and Wagnalls Dictionary for direct entry by a score keeper.

This program is well worth a look -- especially for those who might be contemplating Regional Comp Series like California's SC2 Series. This package will do it all -- from simple Wednesday Nite club Comps to extended series and inter-club competition series.

Give it a try.

Happy Landings,

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 04:21 PM
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The Arizona Electric Soaring Group is using gliderscore. It takes a while to figure out some of the options, but after a couple of contests all becomes clear.
I notice there is an update available, I hope I don't have to learn it all over again!

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 04:54 PM
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The Arizona Electric Soaring Group is using gliderscore. It takes a while to figure out some of the options, but after a couple of contests all becomes clear.
I notice there is an update available, I hope I don't have to learn it all over again!

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The only change that effects ALES is to select whether landing scores are normalized WITH flights or are added AFTER normalizing flights.

Gerry has been very generous in making program changes to accommodate our ALES format.

Happy Landings,

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 08:17 PM
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Ive been playing with all the different versions listed so far and I think I will use Glider Score for our clubs first ALES contest - which should be sometime next month.

I like the fact that it saves the pilot info and the other database functions. I also like the way is "seeds" so that all pilots get to fly against the max number of other pilots. This seems to me to be the fairest way to do it.

I'll let you all know how I like it after a field trial
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Gerry Carter has updated his GliderScore program to include scoring landings in accordance with our ALES rules. It can be downloaded from:

http://www.gliderscore.com/

This program has immense capability to deal with not only straight-away ALES contests, but whatever variations one can imagine.

It is a standalone (not spreadsheet based) program and IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SCREW IT UP. It is used worldwide for scoring virtually every kind of glider contest and is very well documented and supported.

IT IS VERY SIMPLE TO USE.

That said, it will keep a permanent entrant data base, a contest data base, it will score series standings and it can furnish database files to share with other users.

For all practical purposes it will allow any number of contestants, any number of rounds and any number of flight groups. It has a very sophisticated method of creating flight group matrices -- and of furnishing various views of how effectively contestants' encounters with each other are mixed. It runs multiple iterations of the matrices and selects the best one. It will take into account frequency conflicts in creating the matrices. And it will accommodate teams and team scoring and, if desired, throw-out rounds.

It will print out generic or personalized score cards and it will furnish current standings reports at any time during a competition. And for entrants who include their email addresses on their entry form, it will email results immediately after the competition is closed.

It will also score F5J comps without any fuss.

And when it is all done, it can furnish competition data in a format which can be analyzed to study flight time and landing score history to help understand the absolute and relative difficulties of those competition elements.

As powerful as it is, it can also be used on a small scale requiring the entry of simply the contest name, date and location, the task description (Duration), the landing description (choice from an editable "drop down box"), the entrants' names and radio frequencies and the number of rounds and flight groups desired. It can print the flight matrix for the contest and contestants can simply enter their Round Number, Flight Group Number, Flight Time and Landing Score with a magic marker on the discarded page of an old Funk and Wagnalls Dictionary for direct entry by a score keeper.

This program is well worth a look -- especially for those who might be contemplating Regional Comp Series like California's SC2 Series. This package will do it all -- from simple Wednesday Nite club Comps to extended series and inter-club competition series.

Give it a try.

Happy Landings,

Don
Don, I cant figure out how to get the program (I have 6.35) into ALES scoring mode. Ive clicked on every thing I cant think of and no go. On line it says to expand ALES on the side menu, but where is the side menu?
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 11:07 PM
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Don, I think I figured it out. I read your article on the ALES Yahoo site and it seems to work as it should as far as scoring landing points.

Your instructions do not seem to be the same as whats on the Glider Score web page. I cant make it work by following the web page instructions and no ALES scoring options show up as is shown on the Glider Score ALES page.

thanks for all your hard work by the way
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