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Old Sep 02, 2012, 06:35 AM
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Old Sep 02, 2012, 07:53 AM
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How do I use the guardian on 3.7 volt rc? Is this possible? The Guardian's operational range is higher than 3.7 volts.
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Old Sep 02, 2012, 10:30 AM
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How do I use the guardian on 3.7 volt rc? Is this possible? The Guardian's operational range is higher than 3.7 volts.
It wouldn't be possible on 3.7v; you'd need a 2S battery at minimum to bring up the voltage to run the Guardian's minimum of 4.5v. If you use 2S, the ESC's 5v BEC feeds the receiver with 5v, which then feeds the Guardian with 5v.

I would like to try to fit the Guardian to a micro durafly edge 540 with a orange r415 receiver, but the servo connections are all micro JST so that is a plug conversion problem because of the Guardian's standard connector size. The voltage levels would all work for this 2S plane, though.

The spektrum 1 cell AR6400L DSM2 6-CH Ultra Micro Receiver/ESC has a voltage range of 3.2 to 4.2v, so it's not possible to power this receiver/ESC with 2S for the benefit of adding a Guardian somehow between the receiver portion and the built-in servos.
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Old Sep 02, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Perhaps this is an option for now, if you are using a brushless motor.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...c-SPMAS6410NBL
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Old Sep 02, 2012, 04:16 PM
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AS3X is no Guardian 2D/3D and the comparison is thus a joke IMO.

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Old Sep 02, 2012, 05:19 PM
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If you can keep the total current under an Amp you could try one of these. 1S to the motor, everything else at 5V off the converter.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11784

It's only 3 bucks to give it a try.
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Old Sep 02, 2012, 05:27 PM
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Has anyone else found that aileron control when flying in 2D gets very snappy, i.e let it fly level and straight then try to bank left or right and it snaps very sharply and not at all like normal????
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 10:20 AM
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There are so many variables. I have never had two plane that fly exactly the same even if they were the same with same equipment and same transmitter settings.

Some have posted that using Expo on the transmitter makes the Guardian 2D/3D respond strangely.

Perhaps if you listed the aircraft, servos,and all of your Guardian and Transmitter setting someone could help explain what is going own.

To me 2D is just a mode to be used for training new pilots and perhaps as a emergency recovery mode if you really get disorientated.

You can set
Center Stick Stabilize Only Mode

so 2D Stabilization is disabled unless stick is close to ceter depending on the Box Size you set.



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Old Sep 03, 2012, 10:38 AM
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It's really nice on an fpv rig to run the self center mode. set it at 10 feet off the ground and you don't gotta constantly guess what it's doing. my planes controll surfaces are kinda big for this 15-20 mph wind, but a 28 gram Telink Multifun with the guardian, took her out a mile and got too low behind something, lost rc, then got it back but all i could see was tree so shut it down and went lookin. epp is the best invention just after the guardian

multifun crash (2 min 21 sec)


that was the 4th flight of it's life. once i got that weird mode setup, it's alot less stressful and alot more fun.

i hung it like an ornament 5 feet from the road a mile away


This plane would be unflyable fpv without it. Thanks Bill, your stuff rocks no matter what they say about ya..... hahaha
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 01:45 PM
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help

ok guys looks like a lot of you now what you are doing with this little thing
I'm having problems with it

*1 when it comes on it just blinks like it is on 2D mode and does not change to 3D when I flip the switch ( When I physically move the plane the ailerons and elevator opposing the movement)

*2 the aileron and elevator are change (if I move aileron stick the elevator responds and if I move the elevator the ailerons responds

*3 the rudder is not going through it ( there is no response from the rudder to the stick movement

I have check the connections plenty of times and everything is connected according to the manual and video

I'm powering the guardian through the AUX channel from channel 9 on my receiver (option number 1 on the manual when the build in Ubec on the ESC is to small) I have a 6v Ubec

I hope you can help me
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 02:27 PM
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help

ok after closer inspection looks like some body mix all labels the gain was sitch with the mod and the elevator with the ailerons
so now I have proper control over the guardian
but the rudder still not coming through although I can see clearly that the guardian has control over it because when I move the plane the rudder oppose the movement but I just can't control it with the stick
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 05:28 PM
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Did you have to raise the speed rate from the default with direct rate mode on?




I did toggle reset several times. It resets just fine, but after waving it around in the air if winds up wanting to fly tilted. Now there is a big difference compared to flying, I am waving it around sideways in a way that never happens in the air. I will have to try flying it obviously. I don't use 2D mode on my FY-20A except for fun anyway.
If you have 2DHeading Hold enabled, and hold the plane in a straight and level orientation, now move the aileron stick and let both sticks go. The 2D heading hold will now try and return the fuselage to thIs eading. You will see that if you
Yaw the fuselage to the left (not roll), the Guardian will raise the right aileron, drop the left one to produce a roll to the right to get back to original heading. This explains how if you wave it about, and the fuselage is not pointing in the original direction you started with, the ailerons will be deflected as it it trying to centre it back on the last recorded heading.
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Well HobbyKing have raised their price from $50 to $63.74!

And they don't have any of course.
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Old Sep 03, 2012, 10:22 PM
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Well HobbyKing have raised their price from $50 to $63.74!

And they don't have any of course.
Bummer, but I did order two at $50 and they have shipped out from Hobbyking.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 01:33 AM
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ok after closer inspection looks like some body mix all labels the gain was sitch with the mod and the elevator with the ailerons
so now I have proper control over the guardian
but the rudder still not coming through although I can see clearly that the guardian has control over it because when I move the plane the rudder oppose the movement but I just can't control it with the stick
Hello Daniel,

When you plug the rudder servo directly to your receiver's rudder output does it work ok?

Do you have a PC that you can connect your Guardian to? Use the software to check the settings on the Guardian. It just does not sound right that the labels are put on incorrectly. It is possible I guess, but this is the first I've heard of this. Was this a used Guardian? If not which vendor did you buy it from? Anyhow, with the labels on incorrectly who knows what else maybe out of wack with this unit as far as the software settings go. It's best to view them on the PC, or go thru the manual way of checking/setting them via the TX control stick and the control surface responses.

Also check to make sure the channel your using for your mode switch has full travel on your TX (assuming it is a 3 position switch). If it is a 2 position switch I think you have to choose 2 of the 3 modes based on the travel settings on the channel.
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