WattAge Crazy Max 3D

Gene Bond · Nov 01, 2001, 09:10 AM

Well, Anybody know anything?

All I know is the news release in RCM October. I want to check one out. Haven't seen any reviews and can't find any info anywhere else. I'm chomping at the bit!

dezflyer · Nov 01, 2001, 01:48 PM

...you mean the 'crazy 8'? i was at hobbie people and asked about it yesterday and was informed that its scheduled for release around thanksgiving. it looks like a fun aerobat, full arf, pre covered and almost ready to go....price is $89.

...btw, if its the same plane youre talking about, its far from a slowflyer!

Mike Greenshields · Nov 01, 2001, 02:01 PM

Crazy Max is a Mini Max with a reinforced tail, fuselage, and a fully symmetric wing. It uses the 370 motor and gearbox (instead of the standard 280). On 8 of our 800mAH NIMH AAA cells, it has super vertical and is really really fun flyer for small fields.

The Crazy 8 is an all wood aerobatic plane designed for the growing popularity in 450-480 size motors like the Multiplex Turbo 450, Velkom 2027, or MPI Cobalt 400.

We originall flew the Crazy 8 with the turbo 450 and 800AR's but with the availability of the CP1300 cells, the flights and flight times are even better.

Both are due around the end of November.

-Mike

deeejay · Nov 01, 2001, 02:01 PM

Genebond, are you talking about the minimax with ailerons? I believe this is what you are talking about.I seen it in rc microflight ,but like you I cannot find anything on it. Like you I would like to find about it to,if anybody has any info. Vest Regards deeejay

Mike Greenshields · Nov 01, 2001, 02:25 PM

Here is the gallery page for the Crazy 8
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/128427.htm

Gallery Page is not yet done for the Crazy Max
Here's some specs:

Specifications:
Span: 35 inches
Wing Area: 284 sq. inches
Length Overall: 26 inches
Weight, ready to fly: 12-13 ounces
Wing Loading: 6.1-6.75 ounces per square foot

Equipment Needed:
4 channel Radio with Micro Equipment (computer radio recommended if using separate aileron servos, but not necessary) (3-4 CS-10 servos-according to aileron setup, Cirrus Micro Receiver
15-30 Amp ESC (Wattage IC-15A or 30A according to setup)
8 cell, 800 mah Nimh 5/4 AAA battery pack (Wattage 128538
Charger (Wattage 1 amp peak charger recommended)

-Mike

Thomas vogel · Nov 01, 2001, 03:22 PM

Genebond
I've looked all through my oct RCM and can't find it-could you tell me a page number. I have just retired my mini max fuse but after 5 planes I finally learned to fly on the mini so instead of another mini-max I would love one of these crazy max's. Long live the mini-max!
Thomas

DNA · Nov 01, 2001, 04:30 PM

Here's a picture of it...no price listed yet.

Mike Greenshields · Nov 01, 2001, 05:15 PM

The price is 49.99 through Hobby People Mail Order. I'm sure our dealers will have similar pricing.

Thomas vogel · Nov 01, 2001, 06:10 PM

Love the fact that I now have proof that Joe Stalin flew r/c!

Gene Bond · Nov 01, 2001, 10:48 PM

Mike: Thanks for the info! I'll be in line for it. The LHS can get it through Global I assume... Too bad the CS-10's are out of stock, had to buy some SL110's (expert). 15-30A? Wow! Must be some *serious* vertical!

Thomas: Top of page 12.

My MiniMax now has ailerons, but the weather's too bad to test! Built a BluCor wing for it, worked OK in the front yard, but too much wind and backwards servo!

You aught to try the MiniMax Motor/gear on a LiteStik -- what a blast. 2 tie wraps to the top of the stick and let 'er rip... (use a 5a ESC)

Later!

Andreas · Nov 01, 2001, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Greenshields
The price is 49.99 through Hobby People Mail Order. I'm sure our dealers will have similar pricing.

Mike,

what will the gear box ratio be?

If you can offer like a 5:1 and a 6 V 400
plus enough ground clearance for a 13 x 6
you will get it to hover on eight 500s.

That would be the killer backyard flyer.

Andre

Mike Greenshields · Nov 02, 2001, 01:04 PM

The Crazy Max comes with the same gearbox housing as the Mini Max.

But inside is a 6 volt, 370 motor and a 3.67:1 gear ratio.

On 8 cells (5/4AAA 800nimh) and our stock prop using lightweight equipment it will not quite sustain hover. However the speed is great and overall flight is exciting. Takeoff roll is almost zero.

But with the switch to the APC SF prop, we've been hovering no problem.

As for the ESC, the motor stock is pulling under 15 amps static so 15 is reasonable.

However, if you go to individual aileron servos, the 1/2 amp current capacity of the BEC in the 15A is too small so you have to bump to the 30 amp. Most 30 amp ESC's have a 1amp power supply which will take the load of 4 servos.

I'm pretty sure the Crazy Max would handle the 400 but the weight of beefing up the fuselage, plus the larger motor, gearbox, and batteries might negate the advantages. The higher wing loading could kill the cool slowflying capcity of the stock airplane.

It is big fun!

-Mike

briefcase · Nov 03, 2001, 02:24 PM

are the crazy max's on sale yet? I can't wait to own one!

Mike Greenshields · Nov 03, 2001, 02:32 PM

The shipment is expected here by December 1.
I am hoping to get it here for Thanksgiving. It is all up to how long it takes to get them through customs.

-Mike

Gene Bond · Nov 03, 2001, 11:36 PM

Got one on B/O through LHS through Global...

Will advise!!!!!

Nov 01, 2001, 09:10 AM	#1
Gene Bond Crash Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,208	WattAge Crazy Max 3D Well, Anybody know anything? All I know is the news release in RCM October. I want to check one out. Haven't seen any reviews and can't find any info anywhere else. I'm chomping at the bit!

Nov 01, 2001, 01:48 PM	#2
dezflyer heli on the brain Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Apple Valley/Victorville, Ca Posts: 545	...you mean the 'crazy 8'? i was at hobbie people and asked about it yesterday and was informed that its scheduled for release around thanksgiving. it looks like a fun aerobat, full arf, pre covered and almost ready to go....price is $89. ...btw, if its the same plane youre talking about, its far from a slowflyer! Last edited by dezflyer; Nov 01, 2001 at 01:51 PM.

Nov 01, 2001, 02:01 PM	#3
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	Crazy Max and Crazy 8 are different Crazy Max is a Mini Max with a reinforced tail, fuselage, and a fully symmetric wing. It uses the 370 motor and gearbox (instead of the standard 280). On 8 of our 800mAH NIMH AAA cells, it has super vertical and is really really fun flyer for small fields. The Crazy 8 is an all wood aerobatic plane designed for the growing popularity in 450-480 size motors like the Multiplex Turbo 450, Velkom 2027, or MPI Cobalt 400. We originall flew the Crazy 8 with the turbo 450 and 800AR's but with the availability of the CP1300 cells, the flights and flight times are even better. Both are due around the end of November. -Mike

Nov 01, 2001, 04:30 PM	#7
DNA registered user Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 3,311	Here's a picture of it...no price listed yet. Attached Thumbnails 14.7 KB · Views: 1047

Nov 02, 2001, 01:04 PM	#12
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	400!!!! The Crazy Max comes with the same gearbox housing as the Mini Max. But inside is a 6 volt, 370 motor and a 3.67:1 gear ratio. On 8 cells (5/4AAA 800nimh) and our stock prop using lightweight equipment it will not quite sustain hover. However the speed is great and overall flight is exciting. Takeoff roll is almost zero. But with the switch to the APC SF prop, we've been hovering no problem. As for the ESC, the motor stock is pulling under 15 amps static so 15 is reasonable. However, if you go to individual aileron servos, the 1/2 amp current capacity of the BEC in the 15A is too small so you have to bump to the 30 amp. Most 30 amp ESC's have a 1amp power supply which will take the load of 4 servos. I'm pretty sure the Crazy Max would handle the 400 but the weight of beefing up the fuselage, plus the larger motor, gearbox, and batteries might negate the advantages. The higher wing loading could kill the cool slowflying capcity of the stock airplane. It is big fun! -Mike

Nov 01, 2001, 02:01 PM	#4
deeejay Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 444	Genebond, are you talking about the minimax with ailerons? I believe this is what you are talking about.I seen it in rc microflight ,but like you I cannot find anything on it. Like you I would like to find about it to,if anybody has any info. Vest Regards deeejay

Nov 01, 2001, 02:25 PM	#5
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	Here is the gallery page for the Crazy 8 http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/128427.htm Gallery Page is not yet done for the Crazy Max Here's some specs: Specifications: Span: 35 inches Wing Area: 284 sq. inches Length Overall: 26 inches Weight, ready to fly: 12-13 ounces Wing Loading: 6.1-6.75 ounces per square foot Equipment Needed: 4 channel Radio with Micro Equipment (computer radio recommended if using separate aileron servos, but not necessary) (3-4 CS-10 servos-according to aileron setup, Cirrus Micro Receiver 15-30 Amp ESC (Wattage IC-15A or 30A according to setup) 8 cell, 800 mah Nimh 5/4 AAA battery pack (Wattage 128538 Charger (Wattage 1 amp peak charger recommended) -Mike

Nov 01, 2001, 03:22 PM	#6
Thomas vogel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: San Fransisco,Ca,Usa Posts: 86	Genebond I've looked all through my oct RCM and can't find it-could you tell me a page number. I have just retired my mini max fuse but after 5 planes I finally learned to fly on the mini so instead of another mini-max I would love one of these crazy max's. Long live the mini-max! Thomas

Nov 01, 2001, 05:15 PM	#8
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	The price is 49.99 through Hobby People Mail Order. I'm sure our dealers will have similar pricing.

Nov 01, 2001, 06:10 PM	#9
Thomas vogel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: San Fransisco,Ca,Usa Posts: 86	Love the fact that I now have proof that Joe Stalin flew r/c!

Nov 01, 2001, 10:48 PM	#10
Gene Bond Crash Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,208	Mike: Thanks for the info! I'll be in line for it. The LHS can get it through Global I assume... Too bad the CS-10's are out of stock, had to buy some SL110's (expert). 15-30A? Wow! Must be some serious vertical! Thomas: Top of page 12. My MiniMax now has ailerons, but the weather's too bad to test! Built a BluCor wing for it, worked OK in the front yard, but too much wind and backwards servo! You aught to try the MiniMax Motor/gear on a LiteStik -- what a blast. 2 tie wraps to the top of the stick and let 'er rip... (use a 5a ESC) Later!

Nov 03, 2001, 02:24 PM	#13
briefcase Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 34	are the crazy max's on sale yet? I can't wait to own one!

Nov 03, 2001, 02:32 PM	#14
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	The shipment is expected here by December 1. I am hoping to get it here for Thanksgiving. It is all up to how long it takes to get them through customs. -Mike

Nov 03, 2001, 11:36 PM	#15
Gene Bond Crash Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,208	Got one on B/O through LHS through Global... Will advise!!!!!

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