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Old Feb 15, 2012, 08:15 PM
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Some of us have built the Monarch Marblehead, designed by Graham Bantock. You can purchase the detailed plans from Traplet Publishing.

Sure, it's a woody, but it's an awesome boat! I've been able to win, place, and show in several regattas with it. I haven't sailed against a Skapel, yet. But I know when I was researching it, it has beaten the Skapel sometimes (depending on who's the skipper).

Depending on your skills, you can keep the costs down.
I've never seen a Monarch in person, but that looks like a fabulous boat, and WAY more than sufficient for the average and every-day club. The everyday sailor will have a really hard time beating a boat like that.

And, if you ask me, there is no reason to dive into a Skapel unless you're fully committed already in the class, and, you have the expectation to race in these extremely high-level events that people are mentioning (worlds)


I'd love to see one of those in person.
I have 3 boats from Bob Sterne, Part of me wants to plank a balsa Monocat just to race it against the Monarch.
they seem very similar to each other (very narrow beams) and both plans are available from Trapplett.
The Monarch is a newer design, using VPP so I would say the Monarch is quicker?
http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/...g/mar2382.html

Come to think of it, heck I'd love to see someone dive-in and build a Monocat on this forum.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 06:22 AM
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Check out the Roar Edge by R. Stollery. Great all around boat.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ight=roar+edge

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Old Feb 16, 2012, 09:29 AM
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Come to think of it, heck I'd love to see someone dive-in and build a Monocat on this forum.
Dude!!!! Ask, and you shall receive!

Monarch Marblehead
Build log
or
Building a Monarch M Build log
or
Monarch International Marblehead by Graham Bantock Build Log

Doh!!!!
You wanted a Monocat build. Nope, can't find a build log for that one. Sorry, my brain read Monarch. Damn, I'm getting old
Hmmmm.... if someone sends me the plans, I might be tempted to build a Monocat.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Doh!!!!
You wanted a Monocat build. Nope, can't find a build log for that one. Sorry, my brain read Monarch. Damn, I'm getting old
Hmmmm.... if someone sends me the plans, I might be tempted to build a Monocat.
I don't blame you, In writing the post, I mixed up Monocat and Monarch myself several times before submitting
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 05:14 PM
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Any M-Projects underway out there?

I'm currently putting a swing-rig together. Good holiday weekend to chip-away at it.
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 11:59 PM
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Here's a picture from last Sunday. There was 12 boats on the line, Scalpels ruled but the Fuzzy Logic and Prim Numbers looked OK at times.
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 03:50 PM
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Here's a picture from last Sunday. There was 12 boats on the line, Scalpels ruled but the Fuzzy Logic and Prim Numbers looked OK at times.
Out of curiosity:

What's the Shortest fin any of you folks have for the Skapel?
Whats the shortest fin you have for that one you had listed in the AMYA classifieds?

Measurements from the bottom of the hull, to top of the lead.
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I have a club race on this Sunday I'll keep you posted with some results and I'll take plenty of pictures of the boats sailing. The list so far is my Starkers 3 plus some Starkers 2's, Paradox, Trucker, Roaredge, Crazy Tube and a Skalpel.
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Old Feb 23, 2012, 09:51 PM
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If you could, ask the skapel owner what the shortest keel he has for it is.


Just curious, I've never seen one in our pond, we have draft limitations. It can get really bad in drought seasons, and of course the bottom is ledge, which is far from a soft landing.
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Old Feb 24, 2012, 09:37 AM
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I have seen a Skapel, and I was surprised at the length of the keel (long little MOFO).

If I remember it was about 1" shy of the max length specified in the ISAF class rules of 660mm (25.98").
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 09:41 AM
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I have seen a Skapel, and I was surprised at the length of the keel (long little MOFO).

If I remember it was about 1" shy of the max length specified in the ISAF class rules of 660mm (25.98").
Not a chance that would fit in our pond!
We are limited to roughly a 16" fin length. depending on the "tide"

Any confirmed numbers of keel lengths would be apreciated!
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 09:46 PM
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From bottom of hull to bottom of bulb, viper + 21", Pixel 25", Ajax 25.5".

Remember that US M's have no depth limit.
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 06:53 PM
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From bottom of hull to bottom of bulb, viper + 21", Pixel 25", Ajax 25.5".

Remember that US M's have no depth limit.
I actually have one of those 21" keels for my viper, with 7lbs of lead on the end. It's set-back and has no rake (drops straight down)
I feel the boat sails better with the 18.5" keel, raked aft and 6.77lbs of lead on the end.

Here's what those two Viper keels look like:
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The viper + keels have a raked leading edge with the trailing edge vertical. I have one fin with a 7 lb bulb, a second with a 5.5 lb bulb, and another shorter fin as a spare. On the Ajax I have a shorter keel with 5.5 lb bulb for the light days. I will probably do the same for the pixel.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 08:00 PM
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For anyone in Arizona (or surrounding areas), Mesa Model Yacht Club is having a Marblehead Regatta on April 7th, 2012.

Typical times are:
9:00AM Set up and tuning
9:45AM Skippers meeting
10:00AM 1st race

I'm not sure how many races we will run right now. We try to get 12 races in, with 2 throw outs. But sometimes the wind's just won't cooperate.

Come one, come all for some fun racing.
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